Their DAR.fm thing is also neat.

I hope this means they'll be able to ramp up the service now, as their support sucks.

He used proprietary software to get the GNU project up and running. First thing he wrote was an editor, then a compiler using that editor, then tools using that compiler and editor, then more tools using the existing tools, compiler, editor, etc.

> Another thing that bothers me is that the FSF stuff almost comes across as negative, so 3DS is evil, iPad is evil, Kindle is evil, etc. Great, but what hardware is actually ok to buy? Why is there still no hardware database of the good stuff that doesn't limit my rights?

http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw

But Google is distributing proprietary software!

Like all proprietary software distributors, we want them to stop and release free software instead. That's why we take up the argument with them.

You know that Free Software is about freedom and not price, right?

But this is Google's code that its running on MY computer. I should be able to control it.

The code is already in your browser and you can already look at it. That's not the issue.

The issue is that without the essential freedoms to study, modify and distribute copies of the software, users are at a disadvantage to the developer and that's unjust.

Because users aren't able to legally modify, study and distribute it? Plus, it's not in a suitable form for modification.

You think the FSF should prefix all of its opinions on its own website?

Psst, here's a copy of Facebook's secret code -- http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v1/yp/r/Ub2OCc5xWCb.js

They just have to provide the code under a free license. Running the code is another problem entirely.

We're not talking about forcing anyone to do anything -- but JavaScript is programming code too.

The FSF's goal is for all the software a user runs on their computer to be free software -- without a license, the software would be full copyright and not in a fit state for modification. This is completely within the goals of the FSF.

Most Facebook users use a browser written in C++ -- they don't know that either, yet free software browsers and rendering engines remain in common usage.