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Comment Re:Who eats doughnuts with the doughnut men? (Score 1) 468

law concerning public safety

This is where your concept falters. These weren't laws for the public safety. They were abusing such laws to make money. So egregiously in fact that the police department in Waldo was literally disbanded by the state for their flagrant violations.

Comment Re:Who eats doughnuts with the doughnut men? (Score 2) 468

his point is towns like Hampton, FL or Waldo, FL.

Towns that literally re-drew their jurisdictions to cover a slice of a high volume highway and set about becoming the one of the worst speed traps in the US. Look at the maps. Hampton literally is a square with one long sliver out to the highway. Only one reason to have that.

Comment Re:Who eats doughnuts with the doughnut men? (Score 1) 468

Offering information on how to get away with breaking traffic laws is wrong

Since most states now have 'move over' laws requiring you to give a lane of clearance to police and emergency personnel...this is provably making police SAFER. We're trying to get people to follow the law - both the speed law and the safety law.

That the this attack on waze came under the false pretense of 'officer safety is the height of hypocrisy

Comment Re:Hypocrites, liars and communists. (Score 1) 441

1. It doesnt need to be disproven, it has not been proven

Kinda of like your strawman assertion that scientists are 'toeing the line' rather than simply in agreement?

Re: # 2 see above.

3. I didint mention water vapor, you did

If you don't know that water vapor is the MAJOR GHG then you sir are wildly uninformed. If you do know this, and I believe you do, then it's more than relevant since you also know that it IS frequently cited as 'more important' than CO2 by deniers.

4. About skeptics and goal posts. Its easy to put everyone who disagrees with AGW theories in 1 basket. When in fact there are 2,3,5, 10 baskets.

Which goes back to my original post. There are caveats on every single graph, but when they ALL start pointing in the same direction, it's time to stop screaming and listen.

5. Nice one about the publishing. They publish ALL THE TIME on the internet. But you ignore them because its not "peer reviewed".

or perhaps it doesn't pass scientific muster. Science can't be disproven, it's factual yet none of the detractors can prove anything other than what we're actually seeing, which is warming.

6. Rush limbaug?? WHO the... what the fuck...?? Why would you bring that idiot up?

YOU said that 'greenies' always bring up heat as estimates, I brought up one of the right-wing deniers favorites doing the EXACT SAME THING.

7. So what if Australia had a hot summer, you damn idiot. Weather isnt climate RIGHT??? RIGHT???? Fuck, you cant even follow your own instructions.

Indeed. 'A' warm summer is weather. 'A' record breaking summer is weather. 'A' summer that is SO HOT you have to redo your temperature chart...is also weather, but, as noted above, when multiple separate points start aligning, it means something more.

We're done here, obviously.

Comment Re:Hypocrites, liars and communists. (Score 1) 441

linky

Seriously though, google is your friend. A 'greenhouse' gas is not a 'gas present in greenhouses'. It's a gas that has the same effect as a greenhouse; i.e. trapping heat that enters via solar energy.

It's a simple physical property of the gas which is why you probably see the "it's obvious" reference. It's also a great indicator of the 'controversy'. Many in the climate change skeptic/denier camp have argued against it doing this. Arguing against testable and physical properties that are well proven and understood and conflating the 'unknowns' of a very large and complex system like the earth to sow doubt in the basic physics and science.

Comment Re:Hypocrites, liars and communists. (Score 1) 441

But it is still only 1 theory of many.

That makes sense and hasn't been as yet, dis-proven. If it's so bad, that should be easy right?

I'm not saying its false, though there has been many articles pointing out some flaws in some of the data and conclusions on that.

Sources please. And not from 'biased' right wing sites...since you're so concerned with this.

It is a complex system, and skeptics study it and one of the main skeptics points is that there is much more to climate than just CO2.

And one of the favorite go to 'more' reasons is water vapor. You've now come full circle in your reasoning.

"Nope, no problems" is something you just said, not skeptics with science backgrounds trying to get their studies published, but being rejected because it doesnt jive with the IPCC.

Are you denying that climate 'skeptics' stated with "It isn't warming" and have now largely shifted to the position you're now holding that, "Ok, it's warming but we can't prove it's related to us". Talk about moving the goal posts.

And as for being unable to publish? Bull fucking shit. There's a great big internet for them to publish on. If their ideas have merit, they'll be picked up on. Unless they flatly ignore data to make a point...

Climate is not weather, weather is not climate. We all know that, its funny how this is brought up by people like you for winter, but you all keep silent everytime there is a scientist or when the media brings it up when there is a hot week or warm spell for a short time.

Rush Limbaugh is the one who brought it up during the last east coast blizzard.

You know who is also pretty silent in the summer? The skeptics saying "huh, it's hotter this year, might be global warming". You do know that Australia just had a summer so hot, not just warmer than average, but so hot they had to redraw the temperature gauges? So hot they've never had temps even near that range. linky

Seems the bias is strong on the warming side in politics and in the media. But thats ok right? Because it fits with your beliefs.

My 'beliefs' are based on science. Yours seem to be in spite of them.

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