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Comment Re:Our Red Hat servers had no issues at all (Score 1) 230

Ah, ok - thanks, I managed to miss that. Most of our servers are still on RHEL 5 because of some odd issues we've experienced with LDAP under RHEL 6.

Because goddamn sudoers doesn't work with LDAP since 6.1, when it used to work just fine in 6.0 and now nslcd pukes on the config you need?

Yeah....this is FINALLY patched in 6.3 (a week ago or so). Be aware that you need to change some things and add an additional conf file to make it work. What a pain in the ass, but it's finally over (or will be for me once CentOS gets it downstream).

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=760843

Comment Re:Seems like anything takes down the cloud... (Score 1) 183

Hmm no you don't usually have much control over the recovery either. I was involved in a outage once because some guys trenching cable cut clean through our fiber bundle. There is no controlling anything that happens after that you are just down until the fiber is repaired.

Diverse utility paths are pretty much required for any datacenter. And even that may not be enough, which I will respond to in the next point.

In a cloud environment, given that you have a DR plan you press a button and you are back online.

Two things: that whole concept is not a "cloud environment" thing, it's the way things have been done for a long time. Also, if you have to "press a button" (or perform any action) you are doing it pretty much wrong and have nothing to be smug about. None of this is magic, not unique to "cloud computing". Stop letting your brain fall out of your ear when you hear the latest buzz words. "Cloud computing" is code for "we figured out how to lease you a fractional part of several servers and call it something else". The only part about it that is new is the marketing. It's carries all the same risks as it did before, but now has some more tools, platform support and vendors due to its trendiness and the increased needs for the types of service in the general market area it covers.

No, I'm not working my first or second job in the industry. That's why I know "THE CLOUD! THE CLOUD!" is not the answer to all problems. It's just another tool that can be used appropriately or inappropriately. Much of what I've seen lately has been inappropriate, but wholly in keeping with what the marcom firms the providers have hired are messaging. Sounds like you've bought into that too. I'd suggest you get some perspective on the industry you are presumably a part of.

Comment Re:What, you thought "cloud" meant "no outage"? (Score 1) 183

I think most are just cheap bastards that are upset that their one server $30/month setup didn't by a redundant datacentre and that opps maybe they should have listened went people said that geo-redundancy: "It's a good thing" TM.

Yeah....Netflix is totally one of those places. Oh...wait....no they aren't and they were down anyway.

Comment Re:Seems like anything takes down the cloud... (Score 1) 183

I wonder how many more of these it takes before the cloud-skeptics start winning the debates with management a lot more often.

This sort of thing never ever happens when you host everything in-house?

Obviously they do. But at least you have some control over the recovery, rather than sitting around watching for carefully-worded email and Twitter updates from Amazon about when you just might get access to the shit you are paying for again. That makes communicating real information to your customers a bit easier.

Of course, you can always use the excuse that it's not your fault and blame Amazon ("see...look at all the other people who are down"). But that's largely a marketing decision I suppose.

Comment Re:Seems like anything takes down the cloud... (Score 1) 183

"Several times and for multiple businesses. Have you?"

I'd actually be interesting in hearing your analysis and experience. I'm looking at this myself and finding that cost advantages differ depending on scenario - there just doesn't seem to be a clear cut point at which one solution costs less than the other for all but the most trivial scenarios.

Because it really depends on the business and the application. It also depends on how much bandwidth you use and if you have geographical limitations which would make accessing that bandwidth more costly in one or more locations.

If you are in it for the long haul, why not have control over your own cheap commodity machines and "scale into the cloud" for overages until you acquire more hardware? Then you can actually hav control of those little things that let you switch between datacenters easily like.....you know, your BGP and other trivial things like that.

There's definitely no one sized fits all for this, but the bulk of the statrups I see that are cloud based appear to be 1.) a bunch of developers first and foremost, so not data center or network engineers at all and 2.) not capitalized well enough in the beginning to be able to afford leasing and equipping space in multiple data centers. And there's nothing at all wrong with that. It's a valid choice if you recognize the reality of what you are buying rather than believing the marketing hype hook line and sinker.

Comment Re:Maybe women are smarter than men (Score 1) 314

Moderate level intelligence go where the money is. Hence the jump in low skill computing ability in 97-00

Spoken like someone else who lived through it. What a horrible time to be hiring high end network engineers or anything else computer related......the amount of crap resumes was simply astounding. Everyone was a 6-month-old CNE.

Comment Re:Shortages are a solved problem. (Score 3, Insightful) 224

I asked a valid question.

And you were asked if you were an idiot because even as far north as New York (and further) every summer hear wave comes with reports on the news of how many people died in their homes form the heat. Yes, these are predominantly the old and/or infirm and always the poor. I'm in no way OK with that. Are you?

Comment Re:any sound in the world.... (Score 2) 402

My father is blind. His mailbox is across the street from his house. He needs to cross the street to get his mail. He would never hear an electric car coming down the street if it didn't make a sound that could be identified as a car.

Fortunately evs still have tires, which are what make most of the noise in most any car at residential street or parking lot speeds.

Comment Re:How long until.... (Score 1) 120

But a telecommunications device is not a house or a car, and the laws for communications are different because of that.

Metaphors are not laws.

-- BMO

Yet the metaphor is accurate, as you still may not use a completely passwordless computer system you find online without at least implied consent (public web servers, etc). This is not up for debate, as it's easy to research case law.

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