Yep. Check out onSSI.com. They *are* probably the state of the art. Their systems actually can look out for tailgating (one person walking in a door right behind another), track a person or a car through your camera array, push alerts based on certain criteria you set up, push video to local police, etc. There's a whole other league you missed while doing your research. It's not actually all that expensive either, relative to what a good retail store's security budget ought to be. (IMHO)

Wow. That's a pretty bold statement. And completely false BTW. LPR, NPR, Facial recognition, window blanking, etc. The list is long.

Zoneminder is nice, but let's not get carried away here.

So...you think the US would wage a war if England wanted to legalize pot? C'mon.

[Citation Needed]

What country is "around here" please? I want to go there.

I'm an idiot? Are you trying to tell me that the difference in the cost of powering the network equipment, and paying customer service people, and pushing paperwork and maintaining hardware for someone who downloads 100GB/month is that much different from the cost of powering the same switch for someone who uses 10GB/month? I'm the idiot? Run a business or shut up? Don't be an ass. It's a stupid argument. Yes, providing bandwidth to customer costs money, and nobody is arguing that. The point is that the carriers see an opportunity to raise prices while rationalizing it by saying that people that download more should pay more. But the fact is, they aren't spending any more to provide those customers with the product. In fact, they've taken billions from the taxpayers and done next to nothing to improve capacity. THEN, even though the network is funded more and more by the taxpayers, they want to control what the customers can do with it. If you're cool with that, then good luck with that.

Only if you're going to tell me that it's not covered by the $50/month I pay. I mean, c'mon. You're talking about the POWER on a network switch? Really?

Right on brother. I dare anyone to disagree with that. If they spent half of the money they are spending on lobbying and advertising, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Which can easily be increased with a negligible investment over time by those ISPs, that for some reason, they refuse to admit and/or subsidize.

And yet, here you are...at Slashdot.

Ok. So you have your server log. How many times has person a visited your site before he's purchased the widget you are pushing to him. Check your logs and get back to me.

I think you're missing the point. Without state, your server logs are only telling you half the story. I don't think you can argue against that.

I just assumed that we all knew that was irresponsible and dumb.

They do, they're called "Sessions". The problem is, you still need cookies to store the session tokens.

Spoken by someone, who very obviously, has never taken the time to learn the ins and outs of a good IDE like Eclipse or VS. There's no argument here. If all things are equal, ie you know both methods the same, and IDE is SO much faster to work with that it's not even close.