Want proof before doing what, exactly? There only needs to be a reasonable doubt about malicious, subversive or incompetent behavior by vendors of security products to justify writing those products off as untrustworthy and shunning them, at least until the doubt can be cleared. In the last year we have had a mountain of doubt dumped down on us thanks to the Snowden revelations.

The only thing surprising about this is that people are still surprised. Leak after leak has confirmed that encryption products from "all major vendors" have been deliberately compromised.

You are correct, however corporate media will spin this on behalf of the corrupt/immoral politicians that serve large corporations and keep the citizens in the ignorance. Lots of fuzzy warm feel good sound bites like "trade deals allowing tax breaks to foreign companies are good for our farmers", "allow us to grow our export industry" etc etc despite little actual evidence after decades of such deals being in place. Australians are particularly at risk of the corporate media chamber given that Murdoch Media empire has around 70% of the market last I heard, with the runners-up mostly echoing the same spin and propaganda,

Many Australians are big on their "buy Australian"/logo marketing for locally made products. It must be frustrating when your own corrupt politicians go out of their way to offshore as much corporate profit as possible, offsetting any gains that might have been made encouraging local industries...

The moment the political class concerned itself more with the accumulation of,power and money for a few, rather than say running the country in a balanced manner for the greater good of all its citizens. Media leaks mean Informed Citizens, which may threaten corrupt power slightly more than if the citizens were left in the dark.

Sounds like an opportunity for an XP to Linux Upgrade utility. One that moves the XP programs to Wine or perhaps an XP virtual machine in the process...

And Australia, and Spain and... is anyone surprised. Slavery is abolished, Long Live Modern Debt Slavery.

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Tor is solid, are you and the GP trying to deceive, or have you been decieved?

Would you like to know more? "How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations"

https://firstlook.org/theinter...

Various Swedish legal experts have fallen on either side of the debate, for example fairly critical article on Assange quotes Swedish professor emeritus of international law, Ove Bring, as saying: "the evidence is not enough to charge him with a crime". So even the experts disagree. Unless you have some inside knowledge I do not see how you can be so sure as to say "technically the charges would come after". So your remarks smell like trolling to me...

As usual from Cold Fjord: half truths, lies, deception, repeating ad hominem and all your typical moral low ground techniques (just to sum up your posts under this very story). There are no charges against Assange. Yeah yeah save use the "Sweden is different, questioning is the same as charging him" crap you usually retort with about this point. Carry on it is amusing to watch... hehe

...and how many terrible things have been said about Assange by Assange critics (take this "news" for example) - so your point is what, exactly? People say dumb shit all the time - the only important sensible thing is to rise above the Ad Hominem attacks coming from both sides and concentrate on the facts. No wonder this news was posted by "anonymous reader", just more of the same...

Not mentioned in the summary, but ThePirateBay users are also included in that spying. Why do we give billions of taxpayers money to the NSA, GCHQ, MI5, MI5, CIA and the FBI again? Industrial Espionage for a few elite industry groups and to help corrupt politicians maintain power it would seem...

That is a real stretch, you do know how ridiculous that sounds? First lets be clear: "involved with people" means The Guardian Newpaper and its journalists working on the story. Secondly you could use the same argument to start raiding and shutting down any media outlet you felt like and start detaining anyone the journalists ever related with - family and all. Real Gestapo tactics.

Every media outlet acts in a manner that could be interpreted as designed to influence a government. It could be argued that any newspaper/journalist is forwarding some political agenda. And the most ridiculous claim by Lord "Justice" Laws: "if [some leaked data that we can imagine might possibly be in the medias hands] was published, it [might for example] reveal personal details of members of the armed forces or security and intelligence agencies, thereby endangering their lives.". Neither Lord "Justice" Laws nor the security apparatus knows (by their own admission) what or how much data was leaked by Snowden, nor has any such data that "reveals personal details of members of the armed forces or security and intelligence agencies" been leaked or published by The Guardian or anyone else publishing Snowden material.

Lord "Justice" Laws might have just as easily said with the same straight face: "We do not know what data they have, but if they happen to have plans for top secrete weapons, and publish it, then they will endanger everyones lives.". So basically what the high court has done is make up a possible threat in order to get the ruling they wanted (or were told to get more likely).

No, what Lord "Justice" Laws really did was cover for unaccountable entities operating in the dark with little to no oversight, Exposing their illegal activities and a call for oversight and transparency is a fundamental obligation of any free independent press concerned with the wellbeing of society. This ruling only hints at how desperate they want to be able to raid Media outlets that start exposing their wrongdoing through responsible whistleblowing. We are already way down that slippery slope it seems, so I guess that it is only a matter of time now...