interesting

sounds like it could also lead to groundbreaking new science along the lines of "hey, that's odd..." discoveries in the past where results were wildly outside expectations

I believe you want definition number 32:
http://dictionary.reference.co...

why are you amazed and dismayed at people reacting to a threat?

why aren't you amazed and dismayed at the loser douchebag making the threat?

who needs to threaten people except a malicious person or a stupid and violent person?

most of it is empty, yes, until one asshole delivers. so you have to take it seriously as no one socially normal or well-intentioned makes violent threats

it is MEANT to cause fear

that's the actual problem genius!

that's how freedom is curtailed: by making you question your safety where you should feel secure

franklin's quote is ridiculously overused because security of course is a necessary thing in this world. it of course can go to far, but what amazes me are internet tough guys who think all prudent responsible reaction to threats is hysterical overreaction. these same internet tough guys will be going "the police heard the threats, why didn't they do anything!" because such losers don't argue form the position of right or wrong or logical coherence, just empty criticism without any intelligence or integrity

Even assuming it's a typo, that one's left me confused.

do you understand what a threat is?

this must be the social disability speaking here, to not understand what a threat is

are you autistic or do you have asperger's syndrome? honest, serious question

we either have

1. another cold fusion debacle

2. groundbreaking fundamentally new science

do i understand the em drive status quo correctly?

No, I think you're revealing your immaturity, xenophobia and stupidity.

But hey, throw nationalist slurs around if you want, we've heard worse. Far worse.

it is

which is why you should use tor if you're trying to hide something

just don't expect to be completely foolproof if you think you would attract the attention of something like the NSA

ideally, throw in another tool/ methodology, and change them up

sniffing one node won't help

sniffing a lot of nodes won't help

sniffing ALL of them (or, in practice, at least the great majority) let's you do timing, target, and content analysis: taking the entire firehose of tor exit node packets, inspecting them, profiling them, and drawing the connections

this is obviously not remotely doable for almost all organizations in the world. except an organization with the reach, resources, and abilities of the NSA. would you really be surprised if the NSA was actively seeking and tracking almost all tor exit nodes in the world? i wonder how many tor nodes the NSA just flat out started in the first place on their own initiative to guarantee a sizable chunk of awareness of what is going in and out

such a difficult effort will get you some useful information. not everything, and not all the time. but you *will* find out some interesting things, some of the time

thus, "kinda sorta figure out who you might be"

yes, exactly

i don't understand how someone couldn't understand your point

all freedoms have natural, logical limitations: where they impinge on someone else's freedoms

there is some weakness of intelligence or social ability going on in a person who can't conceive this

Really? In that case everybody in England comes off as ultra-gay, including the women.

yes, it was originally intended for spies and dissidents in regimes hostile to the free flow of information to share information

that the us government is plugged into it from the ground floor doesn't change that fact

since then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...

In 2004, the Naval Research Laboratory released the code for Tor under a free licence, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) began funding Dingledine and Mathewson to continue its development.[20]

In December 2006, Dingledine, Mathewson and five others founded The Tor Project, a Massachusetts-based 501(c)(3) research-education nonprofit organization responsible for maintaining Tor.[23] The EFF acted as The Tor Project's fiscal sponsor in its early years, and early financial supporters of The Tor Project included the U.S. International Broadcasting Bureau, Internews, Human Rights Watch, the University of Cambridge, Google, and Netherlands-based Stichting.net.[24][25][26][27][28]

ah yes, those great crushers of freedom: the EFF, human rights watch, and now wikileaks

i'm certain the NSA has enough sniffing going on on enough tor exit nodes to kinda sorta figure out who you might be if it was important enough to them

but the point is simply that without tor, that ability to sniff still applies, but even more so. tor isn't bulletproof. it is but one more tool in your toolbox for cloaking and anonymity. combine it with other tools and methods and it is quite useful

tor is simply a good deal, not perfect. what is?

but if you are in moscow or beijing or tehran, and you want to divulge something nasty about those governments, you're certainly free to not use tor, because apparently only washington dc hurts people to keep secrets?

you're not pointing out logical fallacies you're pointing out side topics. stay on topic and make a relevant point, don't look to the existence of other points and say that somewhere in regards to another topic my point doesn't apply. no shit genius, but that's not the topic before you

if you have knowledge of an attack, you tell everyone who is going to do it

if you just tell of an attack coming, you're the one who is going to attack

this is just basic social skills here