no one has the money to rebuild an entire redundant fiber rollout

you would need to sink billions to just begin to compete, with no guarantee of a profit (and less with predatory pricing shutting you down)

it's called a natural monopoly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...

the financial barrier to market entry is too high

nevermind no one wants their streets constantly torn up to lay competing fiber even if there were multiple googles willing to try to compete as just a sideshow because they have a large cushion of billions in the bank

the problem you identify as the government is actually the corporations: they corrupt and bribe local and state officials

how is that the corporation corrupting your government is the fault of government? you want to remove the corruption and corruptors, not remove the regulations and the government. those are the only things protecting you

this is the problem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...

so you want to pass laws against that, and enforce them. i didn't say that was easy, but it's certainly a hell of a lot better than no government regulation and complete uncontrollable and unstoppable oligopolies that rip customers even more and abuse start up competitors even more, with no accountability or redress (since you removed the government regulation)

if you like capitalism, and i do, what you do is you have the government own the fiber, and maintain it. then various companies lease fractional portions of the cable and offer various services. that pays for the infrastructure. kind of like how we handle wireless spectrum: auction off portions of it. that's how you have fair competition

but that fair competition only works with a platform provided by the government

it's like dealing with a creationist or an antivaxxer

simple basic history and well-established economic facts just don't mean a damn thing to you deluded fucks. it's like the religious tenets of some low iq cult: just keep asserting a simpleminded wrong belief, contrary to all facts and history, and you can continue in your quasireligious moronic bullshit

1. predatory pricing is real

2.. predatory pricing happens constantly

3. only government regulations can catch it and punish it

these are all ironclad bedrock truths of the world you live in

predatory pricing is being used here to drain the upstart fiber service of customers

now cover your eyes and ears like a pridefully ignorant asshole, right?

learn you dumb fuck:

http://www.google.com/#q=preda...

that's a random dip into current news. predatory pricing examples everywhere. tomorrow there will be dozens of new examples

what did you say?

The term predatory pricing comes from the time when massive consolidation of railroads and oil was driving down prices. Smaller competitors sought reasons to stop it. The price increases never came, of course. Same as computers today.

you're a moron

not baseless insult. an objective description of the quality of your thought

what you wrote is hilariously solidly wrong. you blindly and blatantly deny basic facts of a subject matter you inject your puerile ignorance into

you're deluded uneducated wackjob and if you had any shame you would stop lying and making yourself look like a feeble crackpot to anyone who actually understands the simple basics of this subject matter

just shut the fuck up about what you clearly do not understand you dumb ignorant fuck

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...

Predatory pricing (also undercutting) is a pricing strategy where a product or service is set at a very low price, intending to drive competitors out of the market, or create barriers to entry for potential new competitors. If competitors or potential competitors cannot sustain equal or lower prices without losing money, they go out of business or choose not to enter the business. The predatory merchant then has fewer competitors or is even a de facto monopoly.

In many countries predatory pricing is considered anti-competitive and is illegal under competition laws. It is usually difficult to prove that prices dropped because of deliberate predatory pricing rather than legitimate price competition. In any case, competitors may be driven out of the market before the case is ever heard.

many morons think markets don't need government regulation. that they "self-regulate"

predatory pricing must be an example of what they are talking about i suppose

...says fat low iq loser on the internats, so it must be true

No, I said what I meant. Eastern Ukraine.

i stopped reading there. my turn to face palm. you're a really dumb fuck you know that?

moronic thread over

you said "eastern ukraine"

eastern ukraine is the war zone, yes?

so you meant "sort of towards the east but still far from the the warzone in eastern ukraine"

that's called basic communication skills

if i said "i went to fukushima," and i really meant "i kind of got around the outskirts of tokyo and saw a government vehicle on its way to the exclusion zone," i could be accused of lying and manipulating by creating a false impression, right?

understand the communication problem you made here you lying asshole?

did you want to leave the impression you were running around a warzone like an internet tough guy?

instead of the reality of just being a fat greasy kraut on holiday eating ice cream?

that's central ukraine you dumb fuck

why the fuck did you say " i went to eatern ukraine, hurrr durrr"

that's the warzone

you lack basic communication skills. you switch your story. you don't understand the topic

i'm so glad you went to ukraine you fat fuck. i skyped with ethnic russians in dnipropetrovsk every day for months, on a dev team i managed a few years ago. good guys. rocket city

now do i get to claim some special knowledge completely at odds with basic fucking reality like you do?

hear, have a greasy sausage you shitbrain kraut and try to educate your ignorant assmouth before opening it next time. especially since the best historical precedent for what russia is doing in crimea is sudetenland, your country's glorious contribution to international thuggery

you don't know what the fuck you are talking about, fat dumb tourist

how do you tell the difference between a troll and someone who believes some of this ignorant shit?

we have a comment in this thread that wants to preemptively nuke iran, and it is modded up

so either slashdot is nothing but a pointless trollfest nowadays and everyone serious should leave, or i'm correcting the ignorant

either way, there are indeed a lot of fucking retards in this thread

Eastern Ukraine was a more pleasant experience.

you're not in germany. you are a *retarded* russian troll. no german would say that sentence

unless, highly unlikely, you are a mercenary or, even worse, some sort of sadistic conflict tourist

in which case you are indeed a greater *retarded* loser than a russian propaganda victim, and are utterly devoid of merit or worth in registering any opinion

go swallow a shotgun you lying demented fuck

LOL ;-)

and shall we proceed down the slope of retarded alterations to a throwaway analogy and miss the demonstration of the simple point?

the USA is stupid in many ways, but it's not THAT stupid, maybe you are.

Hello Russian propaganda retard.

Your country's economy is going down the toilet while Russia makes enemies with close by regions that used to be friends, even part of the same country once. Over the long term, since the 1980s, it is nothing but a slow downhill that will only continue. And its all the creation of the lying blindness and ultranationalism on display in your comment. Your country is politically moronic: it holds all rule to the sole right of one ex KGB mafia thug, cult of personality bullshit like pathetic North Korea, instead of mature democracy. Your economy is about how to distribute oil money between corrupt oligarchs and stooges of Dear Leader, exactly as oil money dries up. It's not a diverse, mature economy. This is the real "benefit" of Putin's "good" leadership.

You can't rule when you don't have enough money to buy new tanks. China outnumbers you 1.4 billion to 140 million. China desires resources. China is also an imperial thug like Russia, enemies and border conflicts with all its neighbors, but unlike Russia, it has the healthy economy to back up its thugging. It will forget stealing tiny islands from the Philippines and Vietnam and barren mountains from India, and notice the weakness to the North and the vast Siberian riches, and notice that for most of history, it ruled north of the Amur. It doesn't even have to invade: those areas are largely and in some places mostly Chinese population already. Texas was ripped from Mexico by the USA by the same slow colonization.

That's your future this century Russia: more slow rot and decay, just like since the 1980s.

But enjoy your displays of thuggish desire for faded glory by picking on Ukraine and Georgia and making all your neighbors loathe you. Good job Russia.

The Ukrainians and the Russians are both slavs who lived under the same empire for centuries, fighting on the same side of many wars.

You throw insults about stupidity when you are the clear ignorant on this topic.

There has always been yearnings for Ukrainian nationalism and independence, but there has also always been love, affection and respect between the Ukrainian and Russian people. Even now. Both Russians and Ukrainians understand this recent split is driven by politics and economics. But the split is doing serious damage to the regard both peoples have for each other: this is real fruits of Putin's yearnings for past Russian glory by thugging on Ukraine and Georgia, birthplace of Stalin, for 1815 style imperialism in 2015: lasting hatred, fear, and disgust by Russia's near neighbors when before there was begrudging respect.

You are welcome for the remedial introduction to the basics of a topic you stick your loudmouth ignorance into. I suggest you educate yourself on a topic, then speak, next time.

ukrainians and russians are not slavs?

ukrainians and russians were not fighting on the same side, under the same government, for centuries?

ok then, i must have negative iq

russia is imploding. thugging on ukraine while its economy shrivels is not the definition of resurgent. it's called a distraction, appealing to ultranationalist douchebaggery while it makes grave enemies of neighbors and previous slavic brothers, who used to be part of the USSR with russia not that long ago. russia is on a long decline that started in the 1980s. this is just the latest evolution of that decay. by the end of this decade china will be taking back outer manchuria and NATO will be seizing kaliningrad to stop food riots while russia points deficient rusting ancient war machinery at much more powerful foes who laugh at it. you can't have a powerful modern nation without a serious economy, and putin turned russia into a kleptocratic petrostate to preserve his power, at the expense of any hope for a real russian future of a diverse economy and a mature democracy. russia is pathetic, weak, and finished

and iran has been chanting death to america since the 1980s!

but it's all obama's fault

of course