Funny you should mention that, because the reason most bottled water has an expiration date isn't that water goes bad, but because the plastics' volatile components in the bottle leach into the water (which is why everyone freaked out over BPE's awhile back).

Another theory? stuff clings to the plastic and sinks it. Having lived on the Oregon coast, I found it rather rare that something would wash up on the shore which didn't carry barnacles, seaweed, algae, and other stuff that clung to it - all of it using the bit of flotsam as a miniature base of operations from which to spend one's lifespan. Eventually so much stuff clings to it that any buoyancy the plastic once had is negated by the weight of the lifeforms and suchlike clinging to it.

Hell, even a sealed glass bottle eventually does this, as algae sticks to outside of it, which in turn attracts sand... the stuff dries like glue, BTW.

One other reason I can think of, speaking of which - did they account for all the stuff that eventually washes up on shore somewhere? I suspect they had to have, but maybe they underestimated it?

...and groceries, and transportation costs (which in a rural area figures much larger into the budget), and sales taxes (unless you live in Oregon), and...

This does lead to an interesting question... and not a troll, I promise:

Now mind you, I'm not saying that suddenly everyone should vote Republican (I'm registered as "no party" in my own state), but I want to know how the folks who support the President no-matter-what can continue the cognitive dissonance and devotion to the guy in spite of crap like this (and much, much more). We see a lot of it even here on /. , so I think it's relevant. Even towards the end of the Bush years, you never saw this level of personality cult... and yet I'm bombarded with folks who will hotly defend the guy no matter what he does (my perception may be biased due to living in Portland, but still...)

Does anyone else see this? And if you are among those who still support the guy, please tell me why not support someone such as a Green Party candidate, or someone who isn't part of the party machine, so to speak?

PS: Simply pointing the finger at The Other Party doesn't really cut it either, IMHO (mostly because I find both to be equally distasteful) - in other words, give me an answer that doesn't involve fear of someone else...

PPS: Please be civil about it to each other and otherwise - this is an honest question.

Because, you know, the typical small businesses are overflowing with IT-wizard-like employees who are masters at using these things, and hold the process in high enough regard to keep an eye peeled for patches.

Oh, wait, they aren't.

...or they'll just call up a private airport shuttle service, like anyone with a brain in SanFran does now (because the airport shuttle services only cost you $30 from Mission to OAK, whereas a taxi will cost you around $60-$80 for the same distance.)

Oh, and most decent hotels have complimentary shuttles on top of that, throughout the country.

You don't get out much, do you?

It is unless you use Exchange server farms to send it. Then it's gawdawful expensive.

Indeed - and you'd be in handcuffs anyway.

If you want to insure that they don't go pawing through your phone, put a passcode on the stupid thing. Mind you this isn't to keep them out, but to get the case thrown out later on if they decide to go into the thing minus a warrant (of course they can get one later and search it then, but in the meanwhile...)

We like to call them "classes", and there's way more than a thousand. ;)

Dude - I have a bridge to sell you too... they can and will do this, because lifestyle choices are not considered to be pre-existing conditions, only medical conditions are (e.g. Diabetes as opposed to drinking booze).

Not the OP; just thought it would be a fun exercise.

...what sibling said; all you need do is to step inside an R&D or dev department of any Fortune 1000 tech company... it's like the UN in there, and good luck getting your foot in the door w/o an impressive resume or skills that they cannot otherwise import.

Most wouldn't run it in / , but rather in some odd subdirectory, in which case it will stumble across "..", work its way up, then find "." - whereupon most *nixes will immediately devour ./usr , ./etc, ./var, and suchlike.

I think they finally fixed this behavior in recent distro releases, but the incident in question happened in 2006-ish; can't recall exactly if it was an RHEL 2.x box or an older FreeBSD one, but it was hella fun to watch.

Well, let's go into nanny-state mode and see:

Expand mass transit and force people to relocate into denser urban living situations (see below as to how). Fixed.

Eventually, certified/approved CDL-licensed drivers will still be allowed on the roads, but no one else without a special (and costly) permit shall be allowed. Because, you know, the commercial drivers don't die as often as the typical passenger car drivers do.

You ban it the same way TFA wants to ban smokes and fatty foods - you make it so effing expensive and obstacle-laden that folks won't have a choice but to move to a dense city and rely solely on buses, trains, etc. You know, sort of like Caves of Steel.

  It's for your own good, Citizen; we care enough about you to go to all this bother to protect you, so why are you whining so much about it and not just doing what you're told?

d'oh - site ate part of my post:

"(but this time make it bigger, because, you know, you should have been more up-front in that little health survey they required you to take.)"

Oh, it gets worse...

At my previous job, United Healthcare levied a $70 per person per-month surcharge for "tobacco use", and those who claimed they didn't use tobacco were subject to random testing. Those who failed the testing were fired on the spot.

Now they'd just have to check the data mine and see if you bought a pack of smokes, and levy the fee anyway (but this time make it bigger, because, you know, you . I could also see healthcare insurers charging you extra money if you visit a fast-food joint more than x times of month (where x > 1), or bought more than x amounts of soda at the grocery store.

Before the whole ACA thing, it wouldn't be a big deal - you just don't bother with the full-coverage health insurance if you're young and healthy, instead opting for catastrophic coverage (where this wouldn't really be a factor), and you'd be fine. Post-ACA, you're required to pay for the thing, and you're going to get screwed financially if you don't live an 'approved' lifestyle. It's like Bloomberg's little soda ban, except now it's nationwide and the government no longer has to enforce it.

Fuck. That.