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Comment Re:Is there a single field that doesn't? (Score 1) 460

I don't think an "ElevatorGate" is an answer to any question I made.

It's not an ElevatorGate, it's a scandal/controversy that occurred in an elevator when a man asked a woman he has never met before about 'sex'. Scandals sometimes get the suffix -gate attached to them in 'homage' to the Watergate scandal. The Elevatorgate scandal was the context of the entire discussion and was therefore exatly what my 'nonsense' post/accusation was about. Therefore this answers the following two questions:

Who in his sane mind asks a random women he never has met before about 'sex'?
So what is your nonsense post/accusion about?

And also rebuts your claim that

My point is...stuff like this is not happening anyway.

Had you Googled this you would have discovered this information much faster than having me type this out for you.

Comment Re:Is there a single field that doesn't? (Score 1) 460

I'm making a fuss? Let's review your input:

In what retarded world do you live that you consider to ask a girl in public: "you wanna fuck me?" is okey?

Why would anyone do that, oh yes ... certainly in your experience this happens.

For fuck sake read what you have posted two posts back.
What has my answer to do with the bullshit you wrote in the post parent to this?
Who in his sane mind asks a random women he never has met before about 'sex'?
So what is your nonsense post/accusion about?

You have serious problems! Don't interpret bullshit into other peoples posts!

Now, in case you were wondering - that's making a fuss. I am just answering your queries, if that bothers you, you don't have to actually post.

I'm not interested in ElevatorGate stories ... so no, I have not googled it :D

If you aren't interested in the answer to your questions. Don't ask them.

Comment Re:Is there a single field that doesn't? (Score 1) 460

I am sure you are not aware of this but many guys are shy. They do not want to have the world witness them getting turned down in a forceful and rude manner by some girl they thought was not actually a bitch.

I am sure you are not aware of this but so are many women. Among other things I suffer from anxiety and paranoia. On the other hand, I've managed to have sexual partners my entire adult life.

But fine - treat all women like they are bitches just in case they are. See how that works out for you.

Incidentally, if women are turning you down like this? This is a sign to change tactics. And that doesn't involve isolating women and making sexual advances on them. I imagine, like me, you are not a looker. So if you approach a woman in a context that means the approach is a sexual one, you may get a direct answer, it might be rude but that's people for you. There's probably a reason like she used to turn people down gently but too many guys didn't get the hints. Who knows? Either way, maybe you shouldn't be walking up to women in bars and asking them if they want to dance/drink etc unless you are hotter than the girl you are hitting on (to sum up a complex situation crudely) or you can take lots of rejections in the hope of the occasional jackpot.

This kind of shit makes me want to hate women and treat them like animals. Fuck them and their requirements for special treatment. You know what? Fuck you for supporting that shit.

OK, I get it. You are a angry hate filled pipsqueak that doesn't know how to approach women without them telling him to fuck off. Keep it up, I'm sure it's really smart and it'll totally get you laid.

People are people. Women are people. Men are people. Women do not deserve special treatment just because they have been treated like shit in some cultures and some periods of time.

Nobody is asking you to treat women 'special'. But it's probably a good idea to give special treatment to someone who you want to fuck, even if you have the attitude you do. But more importantly, if you aren't able to realize that being a woman is a different experience than being a man with different perspectives and different fears I can't help you. If you think that women should feel perfectly safe alone with strange men in elevators may I remind you of Ray Rice?

They are the weaker sex so therefore they deserve special rules? Fine. But to be balanced, if one thing is given, another must be taken. Remember that.

All fear the Internet Tough Guy!

The thing is, women have a lot more to lose in recreational sex with strangers of the opposite sex than men do. If you can't recognize that element of the psychology of women, you are going to continue to have women tell you to fuck off.

Comment Re:Is there a single field that doesn't? (Score 1) 460

What attitude? I mean if you think it's remotely smart to try and hit on a feminist in an empty elevator go right ahead. But a) you'll probably make her feel uncomfortable rather than sexually interested b) she may escalate the situation in ways you don't like.

There is no order. It is advice. Ignore it if you like, but that means you are a bit of a creep who worries women rather than attracting them.

Comment Re:Is there a single field that doesn't? (Score 1) 460

If you think she's going to humiliate you, and that worries you. Don't hit on her.

She didn't humiliate him on a youtube video. She said the conference was great and there were lots of people that got what she was trying to say about the way women were treated in the community, except this one guy, it was like 4AM and she said she was going to bed, she walked onto an elevator and a man got on with her. '"I'd like to talk more, want to come to my room for coffee". "Guys - don't do that. It made me uncomfortable. A single woman, in a foreign country, at 4AM in a hotel elevator. Don't ask me to your room after I've spent the day talking about sexualising makes me feel uncomfortable." {paraphrased semi quote} That's not humiliation, that's calmly explaining her position and why she thinks guys shouldn't do that. What part of your brain flips out at a person calmly asserting their own boundaries that makes you think it is humiliating?

Women will get over their discomfort when a certain and significant percentage of men don't get angry at women who decline their sexual advances.

I'm not sure what women you have tried hitting on, or how you are doing it - but if you are not getting reactions like 'no thank you', it's probably because you are being an asshole. The last time a female humiliated me for showing an interest and making a move was when I was 14. Hey,if you are generalising all women as needing to 'learn how to cope with angry men calling them a bitch for not wanting to sleep with them', maybe that says something about how you view women, and thus talk to them, which they pick up on, and thus humiliate you as a tool to get you to change whatever is causing them to react that way.

The fact that you don't see why you should be a gentleman on the grounds that some women are unpleasant is the final clue that you're doing it wrong.

Comment Re:Is there a single field that doesn't? (Score 1) 460

If you are having difficulty knowing whether a hug is wanted or not, don't hug.
If you aren't sure about the difference between a welcome friendly consensual greeting hug and an unwanted sexual contact hug - then you are probably a social problem and people are already talking about you behind your back. You referenced Bora Zivkovic. Here is the edited accusation against him which he admitted to:

"He began describing his own experience of going to a strip club. Then he described himself as “a very sexual person.” Then he told me about his wife’s sexual and mental health history. Then he began telling me about his dissatisfaction with his current sex life with his wife. Then he reminded me that he was “a very sexual person.” Then he told me, in an awful lot of detail, about how he almost had an affair with a younger woman he’d been seeing at conferences.

. At the end of the meeting, I hugged him, which may seem bizarre; but earlier he’d identified himself as a “hugging person” and so do I, generally, and I was still in shock and trying to smooth over the incident."

When you have considerable power over someone, veering the conversation towards sexual topics like that, is harassment or at least stupendously inappropriate and creepy, immorally so. It gives the impression (deliberate or not) that in order to get what you want (the thing he has the power to provide) you'll need to know that he is 'a sexually frustrated sexual person who is open to casual sex outside of his marriage'. This is like saying 'You want my contacts? Suck my dick!"

If you are ignorant of this social interplay - avoid talking explicitly about sex with women you've just met and you should be fine. I don't see any accusaionts against him for sexual assault. What exactly are you trying to say?

Comment Re:Is there a single field that doesn't? (Score 1) 460

Except we're talking about a specific report of this incident happening. It's called ElevatorGate. Have you looked that up yet?

I have not even partially accused you of being a molester? Monster? Or whatever. I asked you a rhetorical question to show that what I am saying is perfectly reasonable. IF you are going proposition strange women, don't do it when they're alone with no help or escape. You agree with this position, and go further and say just don't proposition strange women. That's absolutely fine. I've never done either. The MENZ of the internet DEMANDED the right to proposition strange women at 4am and many of them said they were entitled to do so in elevators or wherever else they felt like doing it. There was a whole controversy. Called ElevatorGate. Have you highlighted that phrase and selected 'search Google' yet?

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