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The Internet

What Happens When IPv4 Address Space Is Gone 520

darthcamaro writes 'We all know that IPv4 address space is almost all gone — but how will we know when the exact date is? And what will happen that day? In a new report, ARIN's CIO explains exactly what will happen on that last day of IPv4 address availability: '"We will run out of IPv4 address space and the real difficult part is that there is no flag date. It's a real moving date based on demand and the amount of address space we can reclaim from organizations," Jimmerson told InternetNews.com. "If things continue they way they have, ARIN will for the very first time, sometime between the middle and end of next year, receive a request for IPv4 address space that is justified and meets the policy. However, ARIN won't have the address space. So we'll have to say no for the very first time."'

Comment Re:DJB on the v6 mess (Score 1) 264

Petermgreen - We actually agree in one sense: the goal is to make sure that the public *servers* have unique addresses. It's not very difficult for corporate and hosting firms to make their public web sites IPv6 reachable in addition to IPv6. We're not talking about 99% of the home users or servers internal to the corporate firewall, just the public servers. Once there's critical mass in dual-homed public web content, it's possible for fiber/cable/broadband carriers to connect customers with IPv6 and dynamic IPv4 NAT for the remainder of the content.

Comment Re:Reclaim unused address space (Score 1) 264

RLH - Excellent points. Presently, the theory is that if you've got unused address space, you should return it so that other organizations that have need can be assigned it. This actually has happened (again, http://blog.icann.org/2008/02/recovering-ipv4-address-space/) but realistically, may not be the most popular route. In 2009, the community adopted a transfer policy which allows one party to transfer their address blocks to another (and be compensated independent of ARIN) but the receiving party has to prove the documented need to receive it. Since there's still addresses in the free pool, there's not a lot of reason for someone to pay when ARIN will provide them directly the same space once they've documented their need. FYI.

Comment Re:Not entirely true (companies selling subnets... (Score 1) 264

Transfers outside of the community adopted policies are fraud, report them here https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/ and watch the resources be reclaimed. To the extent that you think the policy should/should not be changed, then get involved on the ARIN public policy process https://www.arin.net/participate/index.html. /John

Comment Re:DJB on the v6 mess (Score 2, Informative) 264

DJB is correct, in that the IETF considered it outside their scope to do a "transition plan for the Internet"... This means that instead of having one standard model for how to get to IPv6, we've seen a veritable parade of transition and coexistence technologies. The combination of no clear transition plan plus no new end-user features makes deployment of IPv6 challenging, and I noted the same thing 15 years ago in RFC 1669. Despite all of the above, IPv6 remains the only viable answer if we want to keep growing the Internet.
The Internet

IPv6 Challenges and Opportunities 315

1sockchuck writes "Opinions differ on when the Internet will run out of IPv4 addresses, prompting a wholesale transition to IPv6. In recent videos, John Curran of ARIN provides an overview of issues involved in the IPv6 transition, while Martin Levy of Hurricane Electric discusses his company's view that early-mover status on IPv6 readiness can be a competitive advantage for service providers. Levy's company has published an IPv4 DeathWatch app for the iPhone to raise awareness of the transition."
Networking

Submission + - Free Wi-Fi for the Residents of Venice, Italy 1

pmontra writes: The City of Venice, Italy, started to offer free Wi-Fi to residents (Google translation from the Italian source) on July 3 2009. Tourists and other visitors will pay 5 Euros a day for the service starting from September. The hot spots are connected to a ten thousand kilometers (6.250 miles) fiber optic LAN the City started deploying in the '90s. The first day of free Internet access has been celebrated with a digital treasure hunt in the channels of the lagoon city.

Comment Actual stats on assignment (Score 1) 266

Actually assignments from RIR's to customers are shown here:
<http://www.nro.org/documents/presentations/nro-jointstats_03-31-09.pdf>, on page 4.

This has been growing steadily, and was more than 12 /8 equivalents. This indeed is not "12 to 14", but shows that the reclamation of several 'Class A" addresses would still only give us more months, not years.
The Internet

ARIN Letter Says Two More Years of IPv4 266

dew4au writes "A reader over at SANS Internet Storm Center pointed out a certified letter his organization received from ARIN. The letter notes that all IPv4 space will be depleted within two years and outlines new requirements for address applications. New submissions will require an attestation of accuracy from an organizational officer. It also advises organizations to start addressing publicly accessible assets with IPv6. Is ARIN hoping to scare companies into action with the specter of scarce resources? This may be what's needed to spur adoption since there appears to be no business case for IPv6 deployment."

Comment Re:18+% of IPv4 addresses unused (Score 1) 340

Anyone who says we're running out of IPv4 addresses needs to go back and look at what is actually allocated and what isn't.

Done. Note that we've been averaging between 10 and 15 /8 blocks assigned per year in total space, which using very simply math against a total of 31 means we have a short number of years. If you'd like to see the actual assignment numbers and some more advanced models, go here: http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html.

With respect to use of the 16 Reserved-for-Future-Use blocks, please review http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fuller-240space-02; it is not certain if this space will be made available for public use or for private reserved use.

Comment Adding IPv6 to server [Re:The switch from DC to AC (Score 1) 340

Yes, you can have the very same server answer IPv6 queries as well as IPv4, you just need to add IPv6 interface to the server and make sure the particular server software knows how to bind to IPv6 address.

The particular ISOC survey document which started this thread has a fairly long list of resources at the end of it which might be helpful, but here's a few to get you started: http://www.6diss.org/, http://www.getipv6.info/ and http://www.ipv6tf.org/

Comment Re:The switch from DC to AC (Score 1) 340

Quite possibly longer... IPv4 is going to be around for a long, long time; certainly in use in private and/or disconnected networks.

The important aspect of the transition to IPv6 is getting the public Internet resources using IPv6 in parallel with IPv4, as this allows continued growth of the Internet while reducing the amount of traffic that needs to accessed via NAT.

To the extent that one is operating a public server, it's time to be exploring adding IPv6 connectivity to it over the next two years. This is not difficult, but has some non-trivial security and management aspects which means providers of public-facing Internet servers need to start on this work asap.

United States

Submission + - U.S. CTO Choice Down to a Two-Horse Race

theodp writes: "Barack Obama apparently didn't return CmdrTaco's call. BusinessWeek reports that the choices for the first U.S. CTO have narrowed, and it's now a two-horse race between Padmasree Warrior, Cisco's CTO, and Vivek Kundra, who holds the same title for the Government of the District of Columbia. Two very different resumes — which would you advise Obama to pick?"

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