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Comment Re: So numerology trumps reality? (Score 1) 332

Wow, more accusations. If you want to get all accusatory, let's take you to task for YOUR lies:

1. I can read French very well, thank you very much. Lie.

2. I have no idea what Party you keep referring to. I do not live in Russia. I do not live in the USA. I do not live in Europe. I cannot debate straw men. Identify "The Party" to which you refer if you want me to comment intelligently on this bogeyman.

3. I am no longer committing any deceptions, yet you still have not rebutted in any way the fundamental argument that nuclear power has a far higher output ceiling than wind, all the meanwhile accusing me of lying. Stop grasping at past straw men.

4. "As for the name calling, you've been doing either all of it or pretty damned close to all of it." Direct quote from you. Blatant lie, and you got called out on it hard. Note: arguing that your name-calling was justified does not mean your name-calling never happened.

5. "I very much doubt 75% is the case apart from a absolute yearly maximum" Direct quote from you, which you have still not yet unambiguously repudiated.

Stop attacking me and give me a good reason why we should not pursue nuclear power more than wind power. All I hear is crickets so far.

Comment Re:You deliberately got it wrong 3 times out of fo (Score 1) 332

The hallmark of a losing argument is having to attack the messenger. Just look at your own words. "Pathetic." "Idiot." "Stupid." "Bullshit."

Search this thread for how many times you said those words. Search for how many times I said those words. And you still think I am doing "all of the name-calling or pretty damned close to all of it"?

If you are this wrong on easily measurable objective facts then I don't even want to know the rest of your purported argument.

Can you make a single argument that addresses any of the actual issues?

I have never attacked you personally in this thread. If you think otherwise prove me wrong with a quote.

Comment Re:So what about the 2006 report? Oh forget it (Score 1) 332

If you are willing to resume a serious discussion and stop the name-calling (which you're obviously not), then let's point out (no more exaggerations here, every number below is well-sourced and easily checked):
  • Nuclear energy currently accounts for approximately 1/6th of worldwide electricity production.
  • Wind energy currently accounts for approximately 1/25th of worldwide energy production.
  • No country currently produces a majority of its electricity output via wind. Denmark is the highest at 41%. Note that Denmark's population is 5.5 million. Germany (population 80 million) derives roughly 13% of its electricity production from wind. Spain (population 46 million) is at 18%. There's a couple of smaller countries (Portugal and Ireland) up there as well.
  • Meanwhile France (population 66 million) derives roughly 75% of its electricity production from nuclear power plants.

No politics, no hidden agenda, just the cold hard facts, which you don't like. (By the way, I post under my real name with my real email and real homepage. It's absurd for you to accuse me of hiding anything.)

When it comes to nuclear power, it's clear that we can scale up far beyond present production. We can build more power plants just about anywhere. Functionality-wise, there are no technical restrictions like weather limiting nuclear power plant location. Safety-wise, there is a concern, but it is not an existential threat to humanity like global warming. We as a species can survive (indeed, have survived) one power plant meltdown every 25 years. Hell, we as a species could survive one deliberate nuclear attack every 25 years.

When it comes to wind power, it's not clear that we can scale up. Wind power requires favorable weather. How many of these locations are there? Are they all used up by now? Maybe present-day production is close to the upper limit of production. More to the point, if it could be done at a larger scale, why hasn't it been done already? I look at wind power and I see a huge litany of unsolved engineering challenges that need to be solved (storage, transmission) to make the idea practical. Nuclear power also involves engineering challenges, but those have been solved already.

I do think wind power can be done, and we should try. I'm just saying it hasn't been done yet. We can easily get wind up to where nuclear is now (~20% of worldwide electricity consumption). No evidence exists that we can expand beyond that level; certainly only one small country (Denmark) has managed it to date. On the other hand, if we actually tried with nuclear power, we can easily get nuclear power worldwide up to where it is now in France (~75% of consumption). I guess you haven't noticed, but France has a pretty good safety record with their nuclear plants. If proliferation is a concern, then fine, I'll happily take 75% of (USA, Russia, Great Britian, France, China, India).

Comment Re:I do understand hence identifying the error (Score 1) 332

Oh good, so you admit you can read French.

According to your Wikipedia article, Cordemais has: "two coal-fired groups with a capacity of 600 MW each and two oil-fired groups with a capacity of 700 MW each, thus totalling an installed electric generation capacity of 2,600 MW." This is a direct quote.

According to the report I linked to (http://www.developpement-durable.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/Ref_-_Bilan_energetique_France_2012.pdf), on page 28 of the PDF (page 26 by the document's own page numbering), in the table titled "Production totale brute d’électricité", you see clearly that nuclear power accounted for 425.4 TWh of electricity production in 2012, and coal generation (Thermique classique) accounted for 53.8 TWh in 2012. You can read the table even if you don't know any French. The total amount of electricity generated in France in 2012 was 561.2 TWh. Nuclear power is 75.8% of this total (425.4/561.2 = .758), exactly as I claim.

Now, time for some more math: 2,600 MW * 1 year equals 22.8 TWh, assuming 100% operation with zero downtime.

Note that 22.8 TWh is comfortably less than 53.8 TWh.

There is no contradiction. You lose.

Comment Re:However (Score 1) 332

Having made the suggestion, you are now obliged to live with the results. Are you now disclaiming your own suggestion? If you can't understand French, knowing full well that you asked for a primary source, and that any primary source on this topic will be in French, then that's on you.

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