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Comment Re:Too busy teaching Islam in US schools (Score 1) 291

I originally had a whole bunch written out to prove how malicious your logic was, but figured it was not best to poke the flamebait any harder. Instead, I am simply addressing one of your points, because what I ended up writing for this one point actually made myself laugh:

How is the Muslim ideology that much different than that of the Jewish and Christian faiths when all three schools of thought believe in the exact same mythical character that governs the universe?

You read the books and cannot tell the difference? are you *sure* you read them? the differences are stark!

I think it is quite obvious that all three of these religions have different prophets and theories about the one true God, but it is hard to deny that they all share the exact same one true God.

Let me break this down for you as simply as possible: If the Jewish faith worshipped the Computing Device in front of you as God (instead of God himself), then you must also accept that all sects of the Christian faith worship that same Computing Device in front of you (if you don't, you clearly are not familiar with the Old and New Testament). The Computing Device for these two people is often referred to as Yahweh, maybe for the sake of this story we can call it Apple.

In Christianity, they believe that this Computing Device gave birth to your Mobile Computing Device which they worship as Jesus Christ, and a USB Cord to connect the two, known as the Holy Spirit. Together, the Computing Device , the Mobile Computing Device, and the USB Cord compose the Holy Trinity of God for Christians, but that the Computing Device remains the father of all devices.

In Judaism, they do not believe that the Computing Device has yet produced a Mobile Computing Device and USB Cord that is good enough for them. Both Christians and Jews have written many Manuals as to how to best use your Computing Device .

Many centuries after your Computing Device gave birth to an empirically non-existant character known as your Mobile Computing Device, an empirically existant dude named Mohammed rolled around and claimed that we may have had it wrong about using a USB Cord connection with our Mobile Computing Device in conjunction with our Computing Device . He thanked the Mobile Computing Device and the USB Cord connection for their framework, though he was slightly pissed that only some of the software and hardware were open sourced. He then created his own Manual for how one should use said Computing Device , while many others created more Manuals. The Muslim Computing Device is known as Allah, but is still an Apple Computing Device

Moral of the story: The Computing Device still reigns supreme over all three of these groups.

Comment Re:That's the price you pay (Score 1) 490

It's kind of fun to watch the Bitcoin people act like they invented the whole moneypunk scene, though. :-)

No kidding, it is quite funny. I even got into a live debate with some people regarding this recently (I was an Econ student that went to a CS/Engineering school, thus you can imagine who my friends are and how poor and nerdy this debate was), and none of them had heard of E-Gold. I was using E-Gold many years ago, as far back to high school, and none of these people were aware of it.

I'm surprised you got the jist of my last comment based on how poorly it was written.

Comment Re:bitcoin's value is for it's utopian idealizatio (Score 1) 490

All my friend (singular......tear) always state that half my humour is pointing out the obvious.

When it comes to websites like these, and seeing general stupidity in public, I have typically made it my goal to at least share my knowledge with these people. At the bare minimum I want them to question their own belief system, much like people make me do every day. It's not easy telling other young people that the money systems we use today are actually kind of okay overall. Logic and empirical evidence, along with the scientific method are typically used to back my argumentative standpoints.

Sometimes I do get a joy out of it, almost like a bully, but I don't find a consistent need to do it. It really is that certain kind of intelligent (or well trained) wackjob (seemingly found in abundance on this website) that is knowingly blind and knowingly paints the world as a set of "cartoonish" extremes rather than a spectrum of solutions and possibilities (this could even be a function of this website having started out appealing to those that write binary computer code). I do not feel like a bully when facing these people, as they are bullies themselves. Bad, poor, and mis-information must be stamped out. Much like your sig, it is human duty to do so. The blind may not lead the blind. /high-horse

All this is why I am even willing to entertain the notion of bitcoin in the first place: I am willing to entertain the notion of the spectrum of solutions, alternative currencies, and that the bitcoin technology might have some validity which can help make government currency have more checks, balances, accountability, and transparency. But to suggest that bitcoin will supplant all government currencies? The notion is fallacious as you say, and totally misses the point of the current currency system. If any one singular group of people had the ability to supplant government currencies in one fell swoop such that the majority of people actually had faith in said currency, it would be some conglomerate of banks, much like it was before gold standard and fiat currencies.

People have always wanted to store shit, and banks have always been there to store said shit. Currency is just a different pile of said shit, in representative form.

I remember living in America, in a relatively small town, needing to use E-Gold in order to buy stuff online. Bitcoin is fundamentally different, yes, but alternative currencies have and always will exist. Don't like the currency you are using? Fortunately most of us commenting on these forums live in a country that provides the opportunity to use a different currency.

Comment Re:That's the price you pay (Score 1) 490

Thank you. I would say it's not inevitable, though, since the other possibility is that they may be crushed like a bug by the feds, like e-gold was.

Yes, I imagine that like E-Gold it will just be shut down in any capacity it can be as, because like E-Gold (man i remember those days) most of the activity it is used for are illegal transactions (man I remember engaging in many of these online, now I just have friends and don't live in a remote area so I don't need to be concerned about this).

Comment Re:That's the price you pay (Score 1) 490

Instant and offline too is necessary. And sorry, but the ENTIRE TRANSACTION HISTORY OF EVERY BITCOIN is known to all. This is completely unacceptable.

I'm confused. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with the point I made? Allow me to repeat my point for clarification:

Already it often takes 20 minutes or more to validate a transaction.

A few more years and it will be hundreds of terrabytes.

Christ almighty, I did not realize it is already that slow.... If it can't be instant, it can't be The Currency. Sorry.

You can understand how I am confused by your response.

Comment Re:That's the price you pay (Score 1) 490

I am disregarding your points here to simply clarify my original point.

In your comment, you admit to the fact that there could very realistically be theoretical hiccups for a brief period of time. Your comments stated that this hiccup might hypothetically be caused by a massive increase or loss of computational power in the system, and that this hiccup would only be brief before the system adjusted to the new levels. I accept this. However:

You do this while claiming the system cannot be beat, in any way shape or form.

I was merely intending to point out the contradiction in logic.

If you would like to provide sources for how incredibly small the chances of this are happening are, that's fine. We may then be able to compare the percentage chance of a hiccup with the botcoin system to a percentage chance of the exact same hiccup happening with the current currency.

Yet, this still will not address the many other potential "hiccups" to the system.

Comment Re:Transactional Currency, not Safe Haven Storage (Score 1) 490

They're divisible to a huge extent, the problem though is that the total that can come into existence is already known and they don't come into existence at an impartial party, they come into existence as somebody's property.

This is not stressed nearly enough. The next dollar must be available to all parties, not just those with the computational power or math/programming skills.

Comment Re:bitcoin's value is for it's utopian idealizatio (Score 1) 490

"where they have a legitimate gripe that resonates across the masses, you get revolutions. where they have loony complaints that leaves people rolling their eyes, you get cranks"

That would make Bitcoin a revolution.

Although you know you missed the point, Bitcoin simply does not present a better alternative over the perceived complaints with current currency. What problems do you have with current currency?

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