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Comment Re:Symbian is (not) a goner (Score 1) 423

The GP was a bit vague, I understood it differently from how you read it. From my point of view, it makes a lot of sense.

The point that I think makes a lot of sense it that Symbian is not dead because you can run Qt based applications on it. You can develop on your Windows/Linux box and deploy it on your Symbian device. You can also deploy the same app on a Meego device, if you want. Without rewriting it.

Saying an OS is dead in my mind means its not available anymore, or that there are no applications for it. The first is obviously false as there are still 100million devices with it with more coming from various vendors. The applications can be written using Qt (google for "Qt Quick") and as such the applications market is probably just going to get bigger, not smaller.

Symbian is not a goner just yet. But many will agree its going to be replaced eventually with things like Meego. Naturally, this is why developers should choose Qt as they can develop for both the current and the next generation at the same time.

Comment Re:Labelling. (Score 1) 423

most distributions dropped KDE 3 support.

They did, and they did that because their users screamed at them. Which is entirely silly to listen to, I mean, would your car dealer remove the doors if you really loudly asked for it? Hmm, maybe they would.

I'm just saying that the distros did this *against* the wishes of KDE.

Comment Re:KDE 4.0 once again... (Score 1, Insightful) 165

Huh. Sorry, that's complete bullshit. While everyone knows that a .0 version may have bugs, it's also expected that a .0 version *will* be ready for prime time. If it's not, it should have an alpha or beta moniker.

I appreciate your opinion, and I even understand your point of view. Do you understand that releasing software may be something that is not just for your benefit? There are integrators, developers and others that need this release. And you should try it, you might even like it. Depending on how many features you actually use from an office suite.

Comment Re:KDE 4.0 once again... (Score 1) 165

Not sure where you got the impression that a .0 version is a final "please use this for your mission critical work". That has never been true and nobody every claimed it to be the case. Remember Windows 3.0 ? I don't. I do remember 3.1

Anyway; this is a *platform* release. Distro's, integrators and developers can now get this and use it. There will be users that like it, but TFA is being brutally honest that its not for end users.
I don't understand why you seem to be upset.

KDE

Submission + - KOffice 2.0.0 platform release is out

zander writes: "Today the KOffice team released their platform release with version 2.0.0; the name seems to point to both the fact that this is the first in a series and meant for integrators and developers more than for end users but the name platform is also a reference that this version runs on all major operating systems.

KOffice 2 is a much more flexible application suite than KOffice 1 ever was. The integration between the components is much stronger, with the revolutionary Flake Shapes as the central concept. For instance, KWord can embed bitmap graphics, Krita can embed vector graphics and Karbon can embed charts. This flexibility does not only give KOffice unprecedented integration, but also allows new applications to be created very easily. Such applications can e.g. target special user groups like kids or certain professions."

Comment Re:Qt Looks Like Shit (Score 1) 230

Its not so much that many must find Oxygen pretty, its much more that people that don't are not whining about it like the original poster did. They just use another style that looks better to them. Frankly; saying that a theming toolkit looks ugly is kind of silly. Especially since there is a native Windows look&feel as well as a native MacOSX l&f which, well, look native.

Comment Try to design in Qt (Score 1) 230

As posted elsewhere in this story the Qt APIs promote a certain design that make your application and your code easier to maintain and read.

So to answer your point 1;

  • || parent-child relationships are not enough in many cases where objects are shared across multiple domains.

The parent-child relationship is there for memory management purposes. Which directly links to having an owner of an object. If your object is owned by someone else, that someone is responsible for deleting it. This is free in Qt when you use QObject. If your object is not owned by one thing but shared between many you use a QSharedData based concept which immediately makes you stop using pointers too.

This makes it absolutely clear what is what in common usage of the code and you'll notice that memory leaks or crashes due to dangling pointers become very easy to avoid.

So, you may be right Qt is not as flexible as STL. But I don't mind a bit of structure. Less rope to hang myself.

Another point that probably needs clarification;

  • || Introspection has nothing to do with signals and slots

I think it does, you can't have powerful signals/slots without introspection. The huge advantage of using introspection to do connections is that you don't need a pre-compiled interface to code to. Which then avoids a lot of nastyness in C++ with library loading and linking etc.

Which makes it possible to have a GUI designer as powerful as QtDesigner, among others.

Comment QtUiTools (Score 1) 230

The QtUiTools is not meant to be linked against, its a library that is shipped with designer (an development-application) so its kind of odd to judge all of Qt on a bundled application. Perhaps you should try to move the classes you require from this library into QtGui. You may want to file a feature request or even do the work yourself (this post is about the repos being open!!). The tools-library you seem to want to use is not for major consumption, doesn't have binary compatibility and all that. So its great that you *can* use it, but maybe you are expecting a bit too much to get it without any investment at all ;)

Comment Re:pointer (Score 3, Informative) 230

the shared_ptr equivalent in Qt is QSharedPointer (surprise!) not QPointer which is something quite different. I do suggest not using shared_ptr as the Qt version has better cross-platform support and is easier to use and like most Qt things has better readability.

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