Wow. Someone is still trying to reach out with logic and real compassion? (as opposed to the fake compassion of socialism)

I fear you're heading for -1 land, considering the /. political demographics...

I think the current administration is down with Mr. Marx. I'm more concerned about them banning Rothbard. :)

Arg! I'm blaming lack of coffee.

s/succession/secession/g

You cannot reform or even influence the federal government. It is too big, too entrenched, too corrupt. Anyone who claims otherwise is either lying to themselves or to you.

The only practical option is succession. If you live in one of the fifty states, advocate for succession. You can't fight the beast, but you can withdraw your 1/50th of support for it, and when enough other states do the same, the beast will vanish into angry, disbelieving smoke.

Nearly every libertarian book, essay, and blog post is just a google search away.

Shakin' my head, man, shakin' my head.

You keep saying we. Did you personally borrow and spend that money? Is that *your* debt?

As for paying it off, you're naive if you think it's ever going to be paid off, or that the state even *wants* to pay it off, or could if it wanted to.

And even if they did, who's money do you think they're going to use to do it? Yours, that's who's.

If only people would see how much sense secession makes, rather than auto-responding based on their school programming with such stupidity as "the issue of secession was already decided in 1865" and "so you want to go back to slavery?".

Sigh.

"Industry trade groups have no fucking business writing curriculum for children."

Neither does the government. Now that the government controls the schools (a recent development), there's no way to stop this from happening, since you have no practical influence over the actions of your own government.

Thanks, progressives.

Arg. Just noticed I'm not logged in. Fixed, now.

The above post is mine.

Best terrestrial option:

http://freestateproject.org/

Disclosure: I am early mover #488.

Of course, if you've got space capabilities, by all means.

Here in New Hampshire, home of the Free State Project (http://freestateproject.org), that's already happening. We're about to go have a protest next week in Concord against the city PD requesting what is essentially a tank. In the reasons stated on the form they filled out to apply for the DHS grant, they specifically reference "Free Staters" and "Occupy" as potential threats they're worried about -- as justification for getting a fucking TANK.

http://freekeene.com/2013/07/29/concord-pd-requests-a-bearcat-to-deal-with-sovereign-citizens-free-staters-and-occupy-new-hampshire/

Every time I see something like this, I flashback to the scene in Farenheit 451 when the government takes over everyone's wall-screen to post pictures of the fugitive (the protagonist) and tell them to go outside and look for him so he can't hide.

Anyone who thinks the government should have this power is not my friend.

You're not allowed to say bad things about Wilson; he's the darling of the left, especially academia. (He was a professor who became president.)

Just like you're not allowed to talk shit about Lincoln, under penalty of being slapped with a pro-slavery label, which is retarded (Lincoln was the pro-slavery asshole, not me).

My experience does not concur with yours re female cops. I think you might have a blind spot.

And before anyone tries to argue percentages, or point fingers at situational factors, listen up:

It can't be any other way. Cops will always be like this, and in fact continue to get worse. There's no way around that as long as you give them power over other human beings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

Private security, on the other hand, is a different scenario. They have to do their job with the same rights, privileges, and liabilities as the rest of us mere citizens.

I think she was trying to compare *me* to Plato. I've rarely been so insulted.

I don't know why she decided to assume that I get my understanding from CNN instead of from my (and my friends') numerous personal experiences with state thugs.

I don't even own a TV.