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Comment Re:Simple: (Score 4, Interesting) 175

Or better yet, use Minecraft to teach them the basics of logic and programming.

A modpack with ComputerCraft, RedLogic, and possibly a couple of "just for fun" mods like Thermal Expansion or RailCraft would be a solid starting point...if you want to put together something more complex, contact me on IRC (esper.net, #minechem channel) or via Twitter and I'd be more than happy to help you out.

Disclosure: I develop the Minechem mod, and help maintain a couple of different modpacks.

Comment Re: noooo (Score 1) 560

I figured the best way to hammer this out was to poke it myself.

I agree that the trend is upwards. What I'm not so certain is to why its upwards. Given how much crap we've pumped into the atmosphere, and how much we've changed the surface of the earth, it would seem to me that the trend should have been fairly "level" before...I dunno, about the mid 1920s, when cars first started being sold en-masse. But the rate of change doesn't seem to have spiked (or curved) all that much in the next 20-30 years as industrialization took over the world.

Like I said in my first comment, I think global warming happens. I just don't think we understand why it happens. I'm actually familiar with statistical outliers. Part of what interested me about that blogpost was the observation of differences between the actual trend and the models predicting change. Emphasis again on the fact that I don't think we understand global warming yet.

Comment Re: noooo (Score 1) 560

I actually wasn't referring to the WatsUpWithThat blog, although it does have an interesting analysis of the U.S. Climate Reference Network data, which is what I was referring to, and the raw data, which is also what I'm referring to.

As I said in my first comment, I'm just curious why some data is used, and other data is ignored.

As to that last comment...in general, if there's adjustment happening to something like research data, it has to be disclosed in findings reports. Eg, "I adjusted the weight readings by 10.5 grams, because I forgot to tare my scale with the crucible on it". I don't think that all unadjusted data is better. I think that if data is adjusted, the reasons for doing so and the method should also be fully disclosed.

Comment Re: noooo (Score 2) 560

Have to admit, I'm curious about this as well. I'm in the "I think there's global warming, but I'm not sure if we actually understand why" camp, but it kinda annoys me when global warming fanatics froth about "the science", when the best data (eg, stuff that hasn't been adjusted or tweaked) is showing something else entirely.

I'm not saying global warming isn't a thing...just curious about why nobody ever addresses the data.

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