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Navy Guilty of Illegally Broad Online Searches: Child Porn Conviction Overturned 286

An anonymous reader writes In a 2-1 decision, the 9th Circuit Court ruled that Navy investigators regularly run illegally broad online surveillance operations that cross the line of military enforcement and civilian law. The findings overturned the conviction of Michael Dreyer for distributing child pornography. The illegal material was found by NCIS agent Steve Logan searching for "any computers located in Washington state sharing known child pornography on the Gnutella file-sharing network." The ruling reads in part: "Agent Logan's search did not meet the required limitation. He surveyed the entire state of Washington for computers sharing child pornography. His initial search was not limited to United States military or government computers, and, as the government acknowledged, Agent Logan had no idea whether the computers searched belonged to someone with any "affiliation with the military at all." Instead, it was his "standard practice to monitor all computers in a geographic area," here, every computer in the state of Washington. The record here demonstrates that Agent Logan and other NCIS agents routinely carry out broad surveillance activities that violate the restrictions on military enforcement of civilian law. Agent Logan testified that it was his standard practice to "monitor any computer IP address within a specific geographic location," not just those "specific to US military only, or US government computers." He did not try to isolate military service members within a geographic area. He appeared to believe that these overly broad investigations were permissible, because he was a "U.S. federal agent" and so could investigate violations of either the Uniform Code of Military Justice or federal law."

Comment Re:Great idea! Let's alienate Science even more! (Score -1) 937

I am an atheist because I do not believe in anything supernatural.

AFAIC if something has no evidence it may or may not exist, however if a belief requires me to accept possibility of unnatural phenomena I am going to reject it completely until such time that it is actually shown to be true repeatedly and without possibility of being faked.

If you show me a magic trick, pull out a bunny out of a hat and claim that there was no bunny hidden anywhere near you and anywhere near the hat and the bunny simply appeared out of nowhere because you willed it to appear, I want to study you and the hat and the bunny. I want to figure out what makes it possible for you to achieve that effect (and how it can be replicated and possibly used for other things, like pulling electrical power out of a hat or something). I suspect that if such a thing happened and somebody was pulling bunnies out of hats, we would eventually figure out how it was done and by figuring it out we would remove the 'unknown' and the 'unnatural' or 'supernatural' about it.

I do not believe in things that are seemingly impossible, and when somebody claims something impossible, I want a serious study of that, not something based on feelings and reading of scriptures, but actual delving into the reasons behind it.

Comment Re:In other words....Don't look like a drug traffi (Score 1) 462

It's happened 65 thousand times according to this article. You can't assume that just because someone can't afford a lawyer that they're guilty.

Seizure of property perhaps. Unjustified seizure of property, not so often. I've only heard of ONE case myself where the seizure was found to be unjustified.

So are you claiming that some people just let the property go when it wasn't a justified seizure? Can you produce examples? I'm sure there are organizations that would be happy to fund the legal bills to get their property back as what you suggest is a violation of the 5th amendment.

Comment Re:In other words....Don't look like a drug traffi (Score -1, Troll) 462

and that requires that they actually have some level of proof that illegal activity was going on.

You haven't been following this issue very much, have you? Siezures have been made where there was no proof, only suspicion (based on the flimsiest of evidence). As the owner, you don't have the right to challenge the siezure -- the siezure is made against the property itself.

Oh I understand the issue just fine. But, they have to have a minimum level of proof to do the seizure and they also have to defend the action in court if/when the property owner objects. A judge will rip them a new one if they don't come up with justification and the property owner objects. There are checks and balances here.

Comment Re:In other words....Don't look like a drug traffi (Score -1, Troll) 462

Like I said to another poster. This unlawful seizure has only happened in a handful of cases over the last decade, and those where corrected by the courts, property returned and officers involved appropriately disciplined.

The original story reads like this happens every day. Sorry, that's not true. It doesn't happen once a week, or once a month even. For the vanishingly few cases where police forces are actively looking for things to seize, you lower your personal risk by not LOOKING like someone who's stuff they can get their hands on easily. Thus my advice to be careful of appearances.

Look, many TV programs have tried and failed to document this happening since the law was passed. 20/20 came about as close as anybody, but all they really caught on camera was a questionable traffic stop and a whole lot of people who where claiming to be innocent but had serious credibility issues. If the press cannot find and document this, it's NOT happening with any frequency that should be concerning.

If you choose to look like you might be doing something illegal, best figure on being more interesting to those who are charged with preventing crime. So it's up to you. If you want to be stopped and questioned more often, go ahead.

Comment Re:In other words....Don't look like a drug traffi (Score -1) 462

So, you believe it is okay for the government to confiscate your property, without being able to articulate a _reasonable_ suspicion of criminal activity, without charging you with a crime, and without convicting you of a crime?

No., I'm saying that doesn't happen. It's only happened a handful of times, EVER, and the courts fixed it.

If it happens to you, hire a lawyer, get your stuff back.

Comment In other words....Don't look like a drug trafficer (Score -1, Flamebait) 462

Come on, don't fall for this stuff. It's not like we are a police state (yet).

Be reasonable, don't do things that make you look like you are hauling drugs (Including not actually doing it), and things will be OK. Where I get that a foreign national might have a bit more to worry about, especially one driving a car with foreign plates, but remember, all they can get from you is the car and what you are carrying, and that requires that they actually have some level of proof that illegal activity was going on.

Unless you are incredibility stupid, or actually doing something illegal, you have nothing to fear from 99.999% of law enforcement, and for that 0.001% of the time there is a risk, there isn't much you can do anyway. But you have the same things at home I'll bet.

Comment Re:ok (Score 3, Insightful) 102

then the next big thing for European libraries is to allow vpning into the library network and remote viewing the kiosks through a webpage. Sounds fair to me.

They need to allow the creation of satellite locations by their members and then connect all these locations (the member's computer) via VPNs... That way, I can just have my own living room become part of the library and read anything in the collection. Sounds like a win/win to me..

Comment Re:In other words nobody is born smart (Score 1) 269

The hard part is going to be getting a supply of implantable identical twins.

Not as hard as you might think from a "technology" perspective. Actually fairly easy I would guess. IVF would be the first step, then you just break things into multiple parts before things really get going and implant. I'm not an expert in this area, so I'm only guessing how hard that would be.

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