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Comment Re:Rocketry pierces both these levels all the time (Score 1) 142

Total utter bullshit. I read every notam associated with my anticipated flight.

No you don't. It would take you an hour or more to read them all for many flights, maybe more.

This is a list of the current NOTAMs for a simple flight from Dallas to Austin. There is zero chance that you read all that before such a flight.

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Data Current as of: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:43:00 UTC
DFW DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL !DFW 07/584 DFW TWY F EDGE MARKINGS BTN TWY A AND TWY WQ EAST SIDE NOT STD 1507292112-1509302359 !DFW 07/582 (KDFW A7460/15) DFW TWY R BTN APCH END RWY 31R AND TWY P CLSD 1507291813-1508292359 !DFW 07/580 DFW TWY B CL MARKINGS BTN TWY F AND TWY E NOT STD 1507291800-1508292359 !DFW 07/578 (KDFW A7452/15) DFW TWY R3 CLSD 1507291436-1508282359 !DFW 07/577 (KDFW A7451/15) DFW TWY R2 CLSD 1507291435-1508282359 !DFW 07/576 (KDFW A7450/15) DFW TWY R1 CLSD 1507291433-1508282359 !DFW 07/557 (KDFW A7416/15) DFW RWY 13L/31R CLSD 1507291100-1508282359 !DFW 07/551 (KDFW A7409/15) DFW RWY 13L RWY END IDENTIFIER LGT OUT OF SERVICE 1507291200-1508282359EST !DFW 07/550 (KDFW A7408/15) DFW RWY 13L PAPI OUT OF SERVICE 1507291200-1508282359EST !DFW 07/549 (KDFW A7407/15) DFW RWY 31R PAPI OUT OF SERVICE 1507291200-1508282359EST !DFW 07/548 (KDFW A7406/15) DFW RWY 31R ALS OUT OF SERVICE 1507291200-1508282359EST !DFW 07/547 (KDFW A7405/15) DFW NAV ILS RWY 31R OUT OF SERVICE 1507291200-1508282359EST !DFW 07/492 DFW TWY P CL MARKINGS BTN EAST AIR FREIGHT RAMP AND RWY 13L/31R NOT STD 1507252327-1508252359 !DFW 07/491 DFW TWY N CL MARKINGS BTN EAST AIR FREIGHT RAMP AND APCH END RWY 13L NOT STD 1507252326-1508252359 !DFW 07/489 DFW OBST TOWER LGT (ASR 1042525) 330019.80N0965859.70W (7.0NM NNE DFW) 1026.9FT (503.9FT AGL) OUT OF SERVICE 1507251419-1508090400 !DFW 07/477 (KDFW A7262/15) DFW TWY E BTN TWY WL AND TWY WM CLSD 1507241430-1508312359 !DFW 07/421 (KDFW A7180/15) DFW TWY E5 CLSD LGTD AND BARRICADED 1507230027-1508312359 !DFW 07/362 DFW OBST TOWER LGT (ASR 1015399) 324842.00N0970030.00W (5.3NM SSE DFW) 692.9FT (212.9FT AGL) OUT OF SERVICE 1507201343-1508031819 !DFW 07/344 (KDFW A7043/15) DFW RWY 17R/35L RWY STATUS LGT SYSTEM OUT OF SERVICE 1507182148-1507312359 !DFW 07/288 DFW TWY Y EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M NORTH SIDE REMOVED 1507162158-1507312359 !DFW 07/251 (KDFW A6904/15) DFW TWY WR BTN RWY 18L/36R AND RWY 18R/36L CLSD TO B747, A380, AN24, C5, C17, B461, B462, B463 ACFT 1507152046-1508082359 !DFW 07/198 (KDFW A6809/15) DFW TWY E6 CLSD LGTD AND BARRICADED 1507132032-1508312359 !DFW 07/085 (KDFW A6616/15) DFW TWY L3 CLSD LGTD AND BARRICADED 1507070924-1510052359 !DFW 07/070 (KDFW A6589/15) DFW TWY L BTN TWY K9 AND TWY K10 CLSD 1507061524-1510122359 !DFW 07/068 (KDFW A6585/15) DFW TWY L4 BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY L CLSD 1507061239-1510122359 !DFW 07/066 (KDFW A6583/15) DFW TWY EL BTN TWY K AND TWY M CLSD 1507061221-1510122359 !DFW 07/041 DFW TWY EM EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M REMOVED 1507032247-1507312359 !DFW 06/625 (KDFW A6461/15) DFW TWY EQ EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M NORTH SIDE REMOVED 1506301438-1507312359 !DFW 06/582 (KDFW A6375/15) DFW TWY Y EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M SOUTH SIDE REMOVED 1506271433-1507302359 !DFW 06/572 (KDFW A6361/15) DFW TWY Z EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M NORTH SIDE REMOVED 1506270803-1507312359 !DFW 06/571 (KDFW A6360/15) DFW TWY Z EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M SOUTH SIDE REMOVED 1506270801-1507312359 !DFW 06/557 (KDFW A6341/15) DFW NAV ILS RWY 36L CAT 2 NA 1506261313-1601042100EST !DFW 06/435 DFW OBST CRANE (ASN 2014-ASW-5508-NRA) 325206N0970125W (1.9NM SSE DFW) 729FT (150FT AGL) FLAGGED AND NOT LGTD 1506222008-1510152359 !DFW 06/434 DFW OBST CRANE (ASN 2014-ASW-5507-NRA) 325206N0970121W (1.9NM SSE DFW) 729FT (150FT AGL) FLAGGED AND NOT LGTD 1506222003-1510152359 !DFW 06/433 DFW OBST CRANE (ASN 2014-ASW-5505-NRA) 325209N0970125W (1.8NM SSE DFW) 729FT (150FT AGL) FLAGGED AND NOT LGTD 1506222002-1510152359 !DFW 06/432 DFW OBST CRANE (ASN 2014-ASW-5506-NRA) 325209N0970121W (1.8NM SSE DFW) 729FT (150FT AGL) FLAGGED AND NOT LGTD 1506222001-1510152359 !DFW 06/288 DFW TWY EJ BTN TWY L AND RWY 17R/35L EDGE MARKINGS NORTH SIDE REMOVED 1506121615-1507312359 !FDC 5/2981 (KDFW A7462/15) DFW IAP DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. ILS OR LOC RWY 13R, AMDT 9A... ANIME FIX MINIMUMS: S-LOC 13R MDA 1040/HAT 449 ALL CATS. VIS CATS C/D RVR 4500. VDP AT 2.88 DME; DISTANCE VDP TO THLD 1.19 MILES. TEMPORARY CRANE, 734 MSL, 1.45 NM NW OF APPROACH END RWY 13R. 1507291955-1601251955EST !FDC 5/1130 (KDFW A7356/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. COYOTE SEVEN DEPARTURE... WORTH NINE DEPARTURE... PANHANDLE, CHILDRESS, BOOMR TRANSITIONS: DME REQUIRED EXCEPT FOR AIRCRAFT EQUIPPED WITH SUITABLE RNAV SYSTEM WITH GPS, SPS VOR OUT OF SERVICE. 1507280147-1508270147EST !FDC 5/1110 (KDFW A7355/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. KINGDOM NINE DEPARTURE... WICHITA FALLS TRANSITION: NA EXCEPT FOR AIRCRAFT EQUIPPED WITH SUITABLE RNAV SYSTEM WITH GPS, SPS VOR OUT OF SERVICE. 1507280147-1508270147EST !FDC 5/0776 (KDFW A7339/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. KINGDOM NINE DEPARTURE... CHANGE REGIONAL DEP CON NOTE TO: 126.47 363.15 (JETS ONLY). ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1507271614-1601231614EST !FDC 5/8657 (KDFW A7143/15) DFW ODP DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. TAKEOFF MINIMUMS AND (OBSTACLE) DEPARTURE PROCEDURES AMDT 6... TAKE-OFF MINIMUMS RWY 17C, 300 - 3/4 OR STANDARD WITH MINIMUM CLIMB OF 379 FT PER NM TO 800. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1507220220-1601180220EST !FDC 5/2097 (KDFW A6668/15) DFW STAR DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTERNATIONAL, DFW AIRPORT, TX YEAGR TWO ARRIVAL REVISE TURBOJETS NOTE TO READ: TURBOJETS: EXPECT TO CROSS YEAGR AT 8000FT 1507081800-1603310925 !FDC 5/0296 (KDFW A6562/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. WORTH NINE DEPARTURE... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION: TAKEOFF RWYS 18L/R: CLIMB HEADING 190, THENCE... ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1507051351-1601011351EST !FDC 5/0294 (KDFW A6561/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. JOE POOL SEVEN DEPARTURE... TEXOMA FOUR DEPARTURE... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION: TAKEOFF RUNWAYS 18L/R: CLIMB HEADING 190, THENCE... TAKEOFF RUNWAYS 35L/C: CLIMB HEADING 010, THENCE... ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1507051351-1601011351EST !FDC 5/0293 (KDFW A6560/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. GARLAND FIVE DEPARTURE... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION: TAKEOFF RUNWAYS 35C/L: CLIMB HEADING 010, EXPECT VECTOR TO APPROPRIATE ROUTE, THENCE... ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1507051351-1601011351EST !FDC 5/0292 (KDFW A6559/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. DALLAS TWO DEPARTURE... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION: TAKEOFF RWYS 35L/C: CLIMB HEADING 010, THENCE... ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1507051351-1601011351EST !FDC 5/9750 (KDFW A6538/15) DFW CHART DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. JOE POOL SEVEN DEPARTURE (JPOOL7.TTT) ... CORRECT DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION PAGE: CHANGE BRDEN TRANSITION TO READ FROM OVER TTT VOR/DME VIA TTT R-156 TO BRDEN INT INSTEAD OF FROM OVER TTT VOR/DME VIA TTT R-166 TO BRDEN INT. 1507021420-PERM !FDC 5/6506 (KDFW A6347/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. GARLAND FIVE DEPARTURE... CHANGE PROPS NOTE TO READ: PROPS DEPARTING DFW AND DAL EXPECT WYLIE OR HUBBARD DEPARTURE. PROPS FROM OTHER AIRPORTS EXPECT THE DALLAS OR HUBBARD DEPARTURE. 1506261356-1512231356EST !FDC 5/6485 (KDFW A6345/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. HUBBARD EIGHT DEPARTURE... CHANGE PROPS NOTE TO READ: FOR PROPS REQUESTING FL230 AND BELOW. PROPS DEPARTING DFW AND DAL REQUESTING FL 240 AND ABOVE EXPECT THE WYLIE DEPARTURE. PROPS FROM OTHER AIRPORTS REQUESTING FL240 OR ABOVE EXPECT THE DALLAS DEPARTURE. 1506261355-1512231355EST !FDC 5/6470 (KDFW A6344/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. DALLAS TWO DEPARTURE... CHANGE PROPS NOTE TO READ: PROPS REQUESTING FL230 AND BELOW EXPECT THE HUBBARD DEPARTURE. PROPS DEPARTING DFW AND DAL REQUESTING FL240 AND ABOVE EXPECT THE WYLIE DEPARTURE. PROPS FROM OTHER AIRPORTS REQUESTING FL240 OR ABOVE EXPECT THE DALLAS DEPARTURE. 1506261354-1512231354EST !FDC 5/5959 (KDFW A6280/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. COYOTE SEVEN DEPARTURE... DALLAS TWO DEPARTURE... GARLAND FIVE DEPARTURE... HUBBARD EIGHT DEPARTURE... JACKY SEVEN DEPARTURE... JOE POOL SEVEN DEPARTURE... KEENE EIGHT DEPARTURE... KINGDOM NINE DEPARTURE... TEXOMA FOUR DEPARTURE... TRI-GATE EIGHT DEPARTURE... WORTH NINE DEPARTURE... WYLIE SEVEN DEPARTURE... TAKE-OFF MINIMUMS RWY 17C, 300 - 3/4 OR STANDARD WITH MINIMUM CLIMB OF 379 FT PER NM TO 800. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1506252049-1512222047EST !FDC 5/5912 (KDFW A6278/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. COYOTE SEVEN DEPARTURE... PROCEDURAL NOTES/TAKEOFF MINIMUMS NOTE: BOOMR Locations:
DFW, AUS
Data Current as of: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:43:00 UTC
DFW DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL
!DFW 07/584 DFW TWY F EDGE MARKINGS BTN TWY A AND TWY WQ EAST SIDE NOT STD 1507292112-
1509302359
!DFW 07/582 (KDFW A7460/15) DFW TWY R BTN APCH END RWY 31R AND TWY P CLSD 1507291813-1508292359
!DFW 07/580 DFW TWY B CL MARKINGS BTN TWY F AND TWY E NOT STD 1507291800-1508292359
!DFW 07/578 (KDFW A7452/15) DFW TWY R3 CLSD 1507291436-1508282359
!DFW 07/577 (KDFW A7451/15) DFW TWY R2 CLSD 1507291435-1508282359
!DFW 07/576 (KDFW A7450/15) DFW TWY R1 CLSD 1507291433-1508282359
!DFW 07/557 (KDFW A7416/15) DFW RWY 13L/31R CLSD 1507291100-1508282359
!DFW 07/551 (KDFW A7409/15) DFW RWY 13L RWY END IDENTIFIER LGT OUT OF SERVICE 1507291200-
1508282359EST
!DFW 07/550 (KDFW A7408/15) DFW RWY 13L PAPI OUT OF SERVICE 1507291200-1508282359EST
!DFW 07/549 (KDFW A7407/15) DFW RWY 31R PAPI OUT OF SERVICE 1507291200-1508282359EST
!DFW 07/548 (KDFW A7406/15) DFW RWY 31R ALS OUT OF SERVICE 1507291200-1508282359EST
!DFW 07/547 (KDFW A7405/15) DFW NAV ILS RWY 31R OUT OF SERVICE 1507291200-1508282359EST
!DFW 07/492 DFW TWY P CL MARKINGS BTN EAST AIR FREIGHT RAMP AND RWY 13L/31R NOT STD 1507252327-
1508252359
!DFW 07/491 DFW TWY N CL MARKINGS BTN EAST AIR FREIGHT RAMP AND APCH END RWY 13L NOT STD
1507252326-1508252359
!DFW 07/489 DFW OBST TOWER LGT (ASR 1042525) 330019.80N0965859.70W (7.0NM NNE DFW) 1026.9FT (503.9FT
AGL) OUT OF SERVICE 1507251419-1508090400
!DFW 07/477 (KDFW A7262/15) DFW TWY E BTN TWY WL AND TWY WM CLSD 1507241430-1508312359
!DFW 07/421 (KDFW A7180/15) DFW TWY E5 CLSD LGTD AND BARRICADED 1507230027-1508312359
!DFW 07/362 DFW OBST TOWER LGT (ASR 1015399) 324842.00N0970030.00W (5.3NM SSE DFW) 692.9FT (212.9FT
AGL) OUT OF SERVICE 1507201343-1508031819
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!DFW 07/344 (KDFW A7043/15) DFW RWY 17R/35L RWY STATUS LGT SYSTEM OUT OF SERVICE 1507182148-
1507312359
!DFW 07/288 DFW TWY Y EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M NORTH SIDE REMOVED 1507162158-
1507312359
!DFW 07/251 (KDFW A6904/15) DFW TWY WR BTN RWY 18L/36R AND RWY 18R/36L CLSD TO B747, A380, AN24,
C5, C17, B461, B462, B463 ACFT 1507152046-1508082359
!DFW 07/198 (KDFW A6809/15) DFW TWY E6 CLSD LGTD AND BARRICADED 1507132032-1508312359
!DFW 07/085 (KDFW A6616/15) DFW TWY L3 CLSD LGTD AND BARRICADED 1507070924-1510052359
!DFW 07/070 (KDFW A6589/15) DFW TWY L BTN TWY K9 AND TWY K10 CLSD 1507061524-1510122359
!DFW 07/068 (KDFW A6585/15) DFW TWY L4 BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY L CLSD 1507061239-1510122359
!DFW 07/066 (KDFW A6583/15) DFW TWY EL BTN TWY K AND TWY M CLSD 1507061221-1510122359
!DFW 07/041 DFW TWY EM EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M REMOVED 1507032247-1507312359
!DFW 06/625 (KDFW A6461/15) DFW TWY EQ EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M NORTH SIDE
REMOVED 1506301438-1507312359
!DFW 06/582 (KDFW A6375/15) DFW TWY Y EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M SOUTH SIDE
REMOVED 1506271433-1507302359
!DFW 06/572 (KDFW A6361/15) DFW TWY Z EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M NORTH SIDE
REMOVED 1506270803-1507312359
!DFW 06/571 (KDFW A6360/15) DFW TWY Z EDGE MARKINGS BTN RWY 17R/35L AND TWY M SOUTH SIDE
REMOVED 1506270801-1507312359
!DFW 06/557 (KDFW A6341/15) DFW NAV ILS RWY 36L CAT 2 NA 1506261313-1601042100EST
!DFW 06/435 DFW OBST CRANE (ASN 2014-ASW-5508-NRA) 325206N0970125W (1.9NM SSE DFW) 729FT (150FT
AGL) FLAGGED AND NOT LGTD 1506222008-1510152359
!DFW 06/434 DFW OBST CRANE (ASN 2014-ASW-5507-NRA) 325206N0970121W (1.9NM SSE DFW) 729FT (150FT
AGL) FLAGGED AND NOT LGTD 1506222003-1510152359
!DFW 06/433 DFW OBST CRANE (ASN 2014-ASW-5505-NRA) 325209N0970125W (1.8NM SSE DFW) 729FT (150FT
AGL) FLAGGED AND NOT LGTD 1506222002-1510152359
!DFW 06/432 DFW OBST CRANE (ASN 2014-ASW-5506-NRA) 325209N0970121W (1.8NM SSE DFW) 729FT (150FT
AGL) FLAGGED AND NOT LGTD 1506222001-1510152359
!DFW 06/288 DFW TWY EJ BTN TWY L AND RWY 17R/35L EDGE MARKINGS NORTH SIDE REMOVED 1506121615-
1507312359
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!FDC 5/2981 (KDFW A7462/15) DFW IAP DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. ILS OR LOC
RWY 13R, AMDT 9A... ANIME FIX MINIMUMS: S-LOC 13R MDA 1040/HAT 449 ALL CATS. VIS CATS C/D RVR 4500.
VDP AT 2.88 DME; DISTANCE VDP TO THLD 1.19 MILES. TEMPORARY CRANE, 734 MSL, 1.45 NM NW OF
APPROACH END RWY 13R. 1507291955-1601251955EST
!FDC 5/1130 (KDFW A7356/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. COYOTE
SEVEN DEPARTURE... WORTH NINE DEPARTURE... PANHANDLE, CHILDRESS, BOOMR TRANSITIONS: DME
REQUIRED EXCEPT FOR AIRCRAFT EQUIPPED WITH SUITABLE RNAV SYSTEM WITH GPS, SPS VOR OUT OF
SERVICE. 1507280147-1508270147EST
!FDC 5/1110 (KDFW A7355/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. KINGDOM
NINE DEPARTURE... WICHITA FALLS TRANSITION: NA EXCEPT FOR AIRCRAFT EQUIPPED WITH SUITABLE
RNAV SYSTEM WITH GPS, SPS VOR OUT OF SERVICE. 1507280147-1508270147EST
!FDC 5/0776 (KDFW A7339/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. KINGDOM
NINE DEPARTURE... CHANGE REGIONAL DEP CON NOTE TO: 126.47 363.15 (JETS ONLY). ALL OTHER DATA
REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1507271614-1601231614EST
!FDC 5/8657 (KDFW A7143/15) DFW ODP DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. TAKEOFF
MINIMUMS AND (OBSTACLE) DEPARTURE PROCEDURES AMDT 6... TAKE-OFF MINIMUMS RWY 17C, 300 - 3/4
OR STANDARD WITH MINIMUM CLIMB OF 379 FT PER NM TO 800. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED.
1507220220-1601180220EST
!FDC 5/2097 (KDFW A6668/15) DFW STAR DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTERNATIONAL, DFW AIRPORT, TX YEAGR
TWO ARRIVAL REVISE TURBOJETS NOTE TO READ: TURBOJETS: EXPECT TO CROSS YEAGR AT 8000FT
1507081800-1603310925
!FDC 5/0296 (KDFW A6562/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. WORTH NINE
DEPARTURE... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION: TAKEOFF RWYS 18L/R: CLIMB HEADING 190, THENCE... ALL
OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1507051351-1601011351EST
!FDC 5/0294 (KDFW A6561/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. JOE POOL
SEVEN DEPARTURE... TEXOMA FOUR DEPARTURE... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION: TAKEOFF RUNWAYS
18L/R: CLIMB HEADING 190, THENCE... TAKEOFF RUNWAYS 35L/C: CLIMB HEADING 010, THENCE... ALL OTHER
DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1507051351-1601011351EST
!FDC 5/0293 (KDFW A6560/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. GARLAND
FIVE DEPARTURE... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION: TAKEOFF RUNWAYS 35C/L: CLIMB HEADING 010,
EXPECT VECTOR TO APPROPRIATE ROUTE, THENCE... ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1507051351-
1601011351EST
!FDC 5/0292 (KDFW A6559/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. DALLAS TWO
DEPARTURE... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION: TAKEOFF RWYS 35L/C: CLIMB HEADING 010, THENCE... ALL
OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1507051351-1601011351EST
!FDC 5/9750 (KDFW A6538/15) DFW CHART DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. JOE POOL
SEVEN DEPARTURE (JPOOL7.TTT) ... CORRECT DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION PAGE: CHANGE BRDEN
TRANSITION TO READ FROM OVER TTT VOR/DME VIA TTT R-156 TO BRDEN INT INSTEAD OF FROM OVER TTT
VOR/DME VIA TTT R-166 TO BRDEN INT. 1507021420-PERM
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!FDC 5/6506 (KDFW A6347/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. GARLAND
FIVE DEPARTURE... CHANGE PROPS NOTE TO READ: PROPS DEPARTING DFW AND DAL EXPECT WYLIE OR
HUBBARD DEPARTURE. PROPS FROM OTHER AIRPORTS EXPECT THE DALLAS OR HUBBARD DEPARTURE.
1506261356-1512231356EST
!FDC 5/6485 (KDFW A6345/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. HUBBARD
EIGHT DEPARTURE... CHANGE PROPS NOTE TO READ: FOR PROPS REQUESTING FL230 AND BELOW. PROPS
DEPARTING DFW AND DAL REQUESTING FL 240 AND ABOVE EXPECT THE WYLIE DEPARTURE. PROPS FROM
OTHER AIRPORTS REQUESTING FL240 OR ABOVE EXPECT THE DALLAS DEPARTURE. 1506261355-
1512231355EST
!FDC 5/6470 (KDFW A6344/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. DALLAS TWO
DEPARTURE... CHANGE PROPS NOTE TO READ: PROPS REQUESTING FL230 AND BELOW EXPECT THE
HUBBARD DEPARTURE. PROPS DEPARTING DFW AND DAL REQUESTING FL240 AND ABOVE EXPECT THE
WYLIE DEPARTURE. PROPS FROM OTHER AIRPORTS REQUESTING FL240 OR ABOVE EXPECT THE DALLAS
DEPARTURE. 1506261354-1512231354EST
!FDC 5/5959 (KDFW A6280/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. COYOTE
SEVEN DEPARTURE... DALLAS TWO DEPARTURE... GARLAND FIVE DEPARTURE... HUBBARD EIGHT
DEPARTURE... JACKY SEVEN DEPARTURE... JOE POOL SEVEN DEPARTURE... KEENE EIGHT DEPARTURE...
KINGDOM NINE DEPARTURE... TEXOMA FOUR DEPARTURE... TRI-GATE EIGHT DEPARTURE... WORTH NINE
DEPARTURE... WYLIE SEVEN DEPARTURE... TAKE-OFF MINIMUMS RWY 17C, 300 - 3/4 OR STANDARD WITH
MINIMUM CLIMB OF 379 FT PER NM TO 800. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1506252049-
1512222047EST
!FDC 5/5912 (KDFW A6278/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. COYOTE
SEVEN DEPARTURE... PROCEDURAL NOTES/TAKEOFF MINIMUMS NOTE: BOOMR TRANSITION: DME
REQUIRED. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1506252028-1601222028EST
!FDC 5/4321 (KDFW A5578/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. KEENE EIGHT
DEPARTURE... DEPARTURE PROCEDURE. REGIONAL DEP CON FREQUENCY 135.975 / 379.9. ALL OTHER DATA
REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1506052024-1512022023EST
!FDC 5/5876 (KDFW A4422/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. NELYN FIVE
DEPARTURE (RNAV) ... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: CLIMB HEADING ASSIGNED
BY ATC, EXPECT RADAR VECTORS TO NELYN, MAINTAIN 5000, EXPECT FILED ALTITUDE TEN MINUTES
AFTER DEPARTURE. TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: TOP ALTITUDE 5000. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED
1505041234-1510311234EST
!FDC 5/5875 (KDFW A4421/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. LOWGN SEVEN
DEPARTURE (RNAV) ... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: CLIMB HEADING ASSIGNED
BY ATC, EXPECT RADAR VECTORS TO LOWGN, MAINTAIN 5000, EXPECT FILED ALTITUDE TEN MINUTES
AFTER DEPARTURE. TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: TOP ALTITUDE 5000. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED
1505041234-1510311234EST
!FDC 5/5874 (KDFW A4419/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. DARTZ SIX
DEPARTURE (RNAV) ... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: CLIMB HEADING ASSIGNED
BY ATC, EXPECT RADAR VECTORS TO DARTZ, MAINTAIN 5000, EXPECT FILED ALTITUDE TEN MINUTES
AFTER DEPARTURE. TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: TOP ALTITUDE 5000. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED
1505041234-1510311234EST
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!FDC 5/5873 (KDFW A4420/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. ARDIA SIX
DEPARTURE (RNAV) ... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: CLIMB HEADING ASSIGNED
BY ATC, EXPECT RADAR VECTORS TO ARDIA, MAINTAIN 5000, EXPECT FILED ALTITUDE TEN MINUTES AFTER
DEPARTURE. TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: TOP ALTITUDE 5000. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED
1505041234-1510311234EST
!FDC 5/5872 (KDFW A4418/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. AKUNA SIX
DEPARTURE (RNAV) ... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: CLIMB HEADING ASSIGNED
BY ATC, EXPECT RADAR VECTORS TO AKUNA, MAINTAIN 5000, EXPECT FILED ALTITUDE TEN MINUTES
AFTER DEPARTURE. TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: TOP ALTITUDE 5000. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED
1505041234-1510311234EST
!FDC 5/5871 (KDFW A4417/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. JASPA FIVE
DEPARTURE (RNAV) ... DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTION TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: CLIMB HEADING ASSIGNED
BY ATC, EXPECT RADAR VECTORS TO JASPA, MAINTAIN 5000, EXPECT FILED ALTITUDE TEN MINUTES AFTER
DEPARTURE. TAKEOFF RWYS 31L/R: TOP ALTITUDE 5000. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED.
1505041234-1510311234EST
!FDC 5/5342 (KDFW A4346/15) DFW SID DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. DARTZ SIX
DEPARTURE (RNAV)... CHANGE BILEE TRANSITION NOTE TO READ: FOR AIRCRAFT OVERFLYING BILEE
INTERSECTION ON J87 TO OVERFLY TNV VORTAC. CHANGE TORNN TRANSITION NOTE TO READ: FOR
AIRCRAFT OVERFLYING TORNN INTERSECTION, THEN ON THE APPROPRIATE RNAV STAR TO GEORGE BUSH
INTERCONTINENTAL, LONE STAR EXECUTIVE, OR DAVID WAYNE HOOKS MEMORIAL AIRPORTS. ALSO FOR
AIRCRAFT LANDING IN THE LAFAYETTE, LAKE CHARLES, OR BEAUMONT/PORT ARTHUR TERMINAL AREAS.
1505010403-1511270403EST
!FDC 5/9394 (KDFW A3203/15) DFW IAP DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. RNAV (GPS)
RWY 17C, AMDT 2A... LPV DA 862/HAT 300 ALL CATS. LNAV/VNAV DA 1082/HAT 520 ALL CATS. LNAV MDA
1040/HAT 478 ALL CATS. VDP AT 1.27 MILES TO RW 17C TEMPORARY CRANES, UP TO 782 MSL 1.29 NM NW OF
APPROACH END RWY 17C. 1503302028-1510262028EST
!FDC 5/9393 (KDFW A3204/15) DFW IAP DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. RNAV (GPS)
RWY 18L, AMDT 1A... LNAV/VNAV DA 1073/HAT 471 ALL CATS. VIS ALL CATS RVR 6000. TEMPORARY CRANES
780 MSL 1.15 NM NE AND 4985 FEET NE OF RWY 18L. 1503302028-1510262028EST
!FDC 5/9326 (KDFW A3199/15) DFW IAP DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTL, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX. VOR RWY 13R,
AMDT 1C... VOR RWY 31L, ORIG-C... PROCEDURE NA. 1503301910-1510261910EST
AUS AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL
!AUS 07/109 AUS NAV ILS RWY 17R UNMONITORED 1507291545-1508131800EST
!AUS 07/108 (KAUS A1016/15) AUS RWY 17L/35R CLSD 1508010330-1508011030
!AUS 07/097 AUS OBST TOWER LGT (ASR 1001971) 300405.60N0974833.60W (10.5NM SW AUS) 1211.0FT (483.9FT
AGL) OUT OF SERVICE 1507250952-1508090950
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!AUS 07/096 (KAUS A1002/15) AUS RWY 17R/35L CLSD DLY 0200-1030 1507270200-1507311030
!AUS 07/065 AUS OBST TOWER LGT (ASR 1285169) 300740.30N0973826.10W (4.3NM SSE AUS) 730.0FT (168.0FT AGL)
OUT OF SERVICE 1507171121-1508011121
!AUS 07/029 AUS OBST TOWER LGT (ASN UNKNOWN) 301319.93N974046.49W (2.0NM NNW AUS) 585FT (100FT
AGL) OUT OF SERVICE 1507100415-1510100415
!AUS 07/028 AUS OBST TOWER LGT (ASN UNKNOWN) 301309.90N974057.52W (2.0NM NW AUS) 585FT (100FT AGL)
OUT OF SERVICE 1507100415-1510100415
!AUS 07/026 (KAUS A0884/15) AUS TWY A NORTH OF TWY G COMMISSIONED 1100FT X 75FT CONC LGTD
1507092242-PERM
!AUS 07/025 (KAUS A0883/15) AUS TWY A SOUTH OF TWY L COMMISSIONED 1600FT X 75FT CONC LGTD
1507092107-PERM
!AUS 06/110 AUS OBST TOWER LGT (ASR 1059904) 300803.00N0972619.00W (12.6NM ESE AUS) 1004.9FT (500.0FT
AGL) OUT OF SERVICE 1506301411-1508201411
!AUS 05/039 AUS OBST TOWER LGT (ASR UNKNOWN) 301305.11N974010.13W (2.0NM NE AUS) 600FT (100FT AGL)
OUT OF SERVICE 1505120212-1508060500
!AUS 04/025 AUS NAV ILS RWY 17L MM DECOMMISSIONED 1504072000-PERM
!AUS 10/074 (KAUS A1214/14) AUS TWY H BTN TWY B AND TWY C CLSD TO ACFT WINGSPAN MORE THAN
171FT 1410271914-PERM
!FDC 5/4976 (KAUS A0917/15) AUS IAP AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL, AUSTIN, TX. ILS OR LOC RWY 17L, AMDT
2B... ILS OR LOC RWY 17R, AMDT 4B... ILS OR LOC RWY 35L, AMDT 5B... ILS OR LOC RWY 35R, AMDT 2A... RNAV
(GPS) RWY 17L, AMDT 1A... RNAV (GPS) RWY 17R, AMDT 1A... RNAV (GPS) RWY 35L, AMDT 1A... CIRCLING CAT
E MDA 1400/HAA 858. VIS CAT E 3. 3 TEMPORARY TOWER CRANES, UP TO 1050 MSL, 5.37 NM NW OF AIRPORT.
1507141546-1601101546EST
!FDC 5/9880 (KAUS A0844/15) AUS IAP AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL, AUSTIN, TX. ILS OR LOC RWY 17L, AMDT
2B... ILS OR LOC RWY 17R, AMDT 4B... ILS OR LOC RWY 35L, AMDT 5B... ILS OR LOC RWY 35R, AMDT 2A... RNAV
(GPS) RWY 17L, AMDT 1A... RNAV (GPS) RWY 17R, AMDT 1A... RNAV (GPS) RWY 35L, AMDT 1A... RNAV (GPS)
RWY 35R, AMDT 1A... CIRCLING CAT E MDA 1360/HAA 818. VIS CAT E 3. 1507021742-1512291742EST
!FDC 5/0001 (KAUS A0244/15) AUS STAR AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL, AUSTIN, TX. SEWZY ONE RNAV ARRIVAL...
ADD NOTE: OHSEE TRANSITION ATC ASSIGNED ONLY 1503051345-1612310901EST
!FDC 5/8536 (KAUS A0216/15) AUS SID AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL, AUSTIN, TX. CENTEX FOUR DEPARTURE...
NAVYS TRANSITION (CWK4.NAVYS) IS RESTRICTED TO AIRCRAFT DESTINED THE DALLAS/FORT WORTH
TERMINAL AREA REQUESTING FL230 OR BELOW. DO NOT FILE THIS TRANSITION IF THESE CONDITIONS ARE
NOT MET. CHANGE COLLEGE STATION TRANSITION NOTE TO READ: (FOR AIRCRAFT REQUESTING 9,000 FT
MSL TO FL230.). 1503022018-1508292018EST
!FDC 5/2617 (KAUS A0048/15) AUS SID AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL, AUSTIN, TX. PALMS ONE DEPARTURE...
RADAR REQUIRED EXCEPT FOR AIRCRAFT EQUIPPED WITH SUITABLE RNAV SYSTEM WITH GPS. CWK R124-
R175 UNUSABLE BEYOND 10 NM BELOW 6000 FT. ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 1501102156-
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!FDC 3/2088 (KAUS A1172/13) AUS STAR AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL, AUSTIN, TX. BITER SIX ARRIVAL... HOBBYTRANSITION
N/A 1312181400-1512181400EST
Number of NOTAMs: 83 End of Report
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Comment Re:Right to Privacy in One's Backyard? (Score 1) 1197

Well, he approached the man in the company of police. I think he was pretty safe at that point.

Not the first time, but yes, the second time they did. Of course, they weren't going to try and beat the crap out of the home owner in the company of police either, so the home owner was pretty safe at that point as well.

If I'm by myself (or just with my wife and kids), and four people approach me and are clearly upset with me, a gun is the only thing that will even the situation out. Very, very few people could take on 4 people at once and come out on top of that fight.

I imagine that once he pointed out to the 4 men that if they came onto his property they were going to get shot, they had a healthy dose of reality, which is of course when they called the police.

The mistake the homeowner made was not calling the police first. If in doubt, call the cops. In my personal experience, whoever calls them first is the "victim". Not always of course, there are limits to that, but it helps to be the one to call them.

Comment Re:Right to Privacy in One's Backyard? (Score 1) 1197

The law for Peeping Toms, I believe, is that you must take reasonable action to prevent someone from seeing you. Therefore if I'm on the sidewalk and you're in your own home, undressing in front of an open window, I cannot be charged as a Peep since you didn't take the reasonable measure of closing the drapes.

True, which is why the 6 foot privacy fence is the key. If you have to put up a ladder to see over my fence, then I took reasonable measures to NOT have you see me in my back yard, so going over my fence is breaking the law.

Without the fence, I'd have far less of a case.

Comment Re:Amazon doesn't understand helicopters (Score 1) 142

It is worth noting that few helicopter pilots own the aircraft they fly, thus get no say in what goes into the helicopter.

Companies that are not required to install such equipment rarely are going to do so, what is the benefit to the bottom line?

It is also worth noting that ADS-B only really works well with other aircraft that also have it. Having it on the drone doesn't do much if the helicopter doesn't also have it. At the altitudes being flown, the helicopter often doesn't show up on the FAA RADAR (which isn't really RADAR, since the primary systems are being shut down, they are going to secondary systems only).

That is why I talked about the cost to retrofit helicopters, because the drone is only half the picture. The helicopter needs the datalink or it is rather worthless.

Comment Re:"...the same as trespassing." (Score 1) 1197

IR seekers are really easy to make and it's a fun robotics project. Simple to do with analog controls even (the principle is so easy it was highly classified for years). Launch your rocket into the Sun every time.

Tracking a specific target instead of the brightest heat source is much, much harder, but if the drone is the only dark spot in the field of view of the camera, that should be do-able. Fun to try, anyhow.

Comment Re:Amazon doesn't understand helicopters (Score 1) 142

Do you think that matters a great deal to those who authored the proposed regulations? Amazon is going to reserve the right to sue the parties involved, or their estates, for damages.

Sue away, they'd not likely find very many supportive juries.

On the other hand, Amazon is a nice target for lawyers suing on behalf of people killed by their drones.

The drones don't even have to hit an aircraft, even a large bird might take one out of the sky. When the drone falls on someone and kills them, the lawsuit will be expensive.

Comment Re:Amazon doesn't understand helicopters (Score 1) 142

My first answer is ADS-B (both IN and OUT) required for all automated drones in Amazon's proposed "industrial" style airspace from 200ft to 400ft AGL.

ADS-B is wonderful, for those aircraft that have it. Most helicopters don't have it and nothing requires it until 2020, and even then that is not for all aircraft.

Installing ADS-B on small aircraft is expensive, mandates are expensive. Are you going to tell the guy who has a $100k personal helicopter that he has to spend $5K to install ADS-B so that Amazon can have delivery drones?

What about the company that has 10 training helicopters, that would be a $50K bill they didn't need, so Amazon can have drones. That doesn't strike me as fair or reasonable.

Where ADS-B falls apart is when depending on the old, crappy transponders that thousands of general aviation aircraft have. Due to the extreme costs of anything attached to an aircraft, many electronics on aircraft are decades out of date and at low altitudes, not that dependable.

Part of the mandate is that all drones yield to all human aircraft, with a min standoff distance of ....? You sound like a pilot, you tell me what is fair.

For a helicopter? Half a mile. For an airplane? A mile.

Those are the numbers that strike me as reasonable right now. They could come down with time and experience and as equipment gets better. I think the key is to set the margins large at the start and they can be shrunk as experience and knowledge is gained.

Drones would also likely have (and could be mandated to have) collision-avoidance radar or FLIR or both, for 1 or 2 levels of redundancy.

In my experience with RADAR, it is largely useless 200ft above the ground. Ground clutter makes any returns useless.

That being said, I've used weather RADAR in aircraft, not the target acquisition RADAR that the military uses. Keep in mind that even commercial airplanes don't use RADAR to see other airplanes, it is just for weather navigation. It takes a different type of RADAR to track other aircraft. I am open to the idea of it, but I suspect the cost and weight of a reliable and useful target tracking RADAR for a drone would make doing it pointless. But I'm open to the idea in principle.

As for the hobbyist zone (below 200ft AGL), there is already the mandate that they only operate with direct line of sight to the operator, so it is the operator's responsibility to get out of your way.

And let me just say in that case, I wouldn't be over them in general. If I'm flying at 200ft, I'm either flying over an open field, or I'm in some way aware of the situation on the ground.

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For what it is worth, I DON'T like flying at less than 500ft. If I'm at 500ft above the ground and my engine quits, I have enough room to turn 180 degrees to land if needed. If I'm at 300ft, I'm landing at whatever is in front of me, I don't have room to turn. Helicopters can glide and land engine out, but it is a very steep glide. From 500ft, we're generally on the ground in 20 seconds. Longer for some helicopters, less for others. Type in "helicopter autorotation" into YouTube if you'd like to see what it looks like.

Airplanes are completely different. If I'm at 3,000ft in a Cessna 172, I may well have 10 minutes after an engine failure before I'm on the ground. I can glide for miles to an airport or field. Helicopters have the glide profile of a brick. :)

Comment Re:Rocketry pierces both these levels all the time (Score 1) 142

I totally get your frustration...

Keep in mind that the places you likely can shoot the rockets from is Class G airspace. It is uncontrolled, so no one is talking to ATC.

Yes, there is a NOTAM, and yes, pilots are supposed to read them, but many don't. Part of the problem is there is so many of them that they become white noise after awhile. They also aren't in a very human friendly form and if you input a flight plan, you often get back 50 or more of them, many of them repeats over and over of stuff you've seen before.

Anyone who says they read every single NOTAM every time before flying is lying to you.

Which is why you have people flying over you, and that isn't likely to change.

Comment Re:Right to Privacy in One's Backyard? (Score 1) 1197

they started toward me and I told them, 'If you cross my sidewalk, there's gonna be another shooting.'"

Bless him... Too many people think they can do whatever they want...

The drone operator was probably not even considering the risks of approaching a man who just used a gun to shoot his drone out of the sky. Idiot.

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