Shesh, nope. First, what tax subsidies are you talking about? There is no way Coal is subsidized, nor is oil and gas. There ARE significant subsidies and tax abatements for renewable energy already. Second, The problem is the huge drop in natural gas prices due to fracking and the increased production it has made possible. Projections are clear, we will have at least a decade of natural gas prices in the current range. It is what is driving old (and newer) nuclear plants out of business and it is driving electric rates so low that renewables are simply not viable.

Handing out low cost capital to solar ventures is STUPID unless you just want to loose the money. Remember Solyndra? There is a reason this company failed and it's not just because it was mismanaged and sucked cashless by a political contributor to the party in power or under cut by manufacturing in China... Solar is simply NOT viable yet for industrial or even small scale use outside of areas that have the correct kinds of weather (even then it's all but marginal and has really long ROIs). Most of the US doesn't have the right kind of weather to make solar work, even if costs where cut in half. It's going to be cheaper to make electricity by natural gas for a LONG time, especially over solar.

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I would agree that people died on average a lot sooner than we do now. We have advanced in our ability to treat illnesses that used to kill folks much younger, we eat much better and live longer, fuller lives. Now we die from things that where unheard of 200 years ago, but on average decades later than our forefathers.

Technology has it's advantages.

On that, I rest my case.

I thought that the ninnies where only out in force when they where flying out to attend their "global warming" conferences, usually during an unusually cold snap.

Due to HUGE tax subsidies and regulation that attempted to make the ROI on "renewables" good enough that they made sense, some sense. Most of these technologies are not viable in today's market on an even playing field. Not to mention the fact that most of these are actually stability issues for the grid, horrible on the environment and of dubious utility over the long term.

Correcting is only a good idea if you know what actually caused the issue and you *know* how to fix it. As it stands, the answer is we don't know on both preconditions so it is crazy to attempt a "fix" right now.

Because they are related... And all the yahoos who stared talking about "Global Warning" messed up when they picked the terms they used. Plus Al Gore's movie was horrible....

(sarc on) Um... the correct term is "climate change" or didn't you get the memo?

It's been a decade of "the sky is falling" predictions from the environmentalists and because the gloom and doom from the likes of Al Gore, the "Global Warming" term has to be replaced due to the obvious bad press and lack of creditable observations from folks like you.

So it's "CLIMATE CHANGE" to you, and don't forget to use the correct terms... In the mean time, keep the walk clean. (sarc off)

Oh yea, we want to go back to 1980? Shesh, does ANYBODY here remember what LA looked like in the 80's? Apart from all the women in big hair and the plaid suits going out of style? No, don't want to go back to the orange brown haze myself.

It's like all the environmentalists who want us to go back to horse and buggy days..... They are NUTS! Does anybody remember how many people DIED from preventable illness and substandard sanitation? From starvation? There are a LOT more people on this earth now days and there is just no way we go back, unless the majority of folks take one for the team and just die. Just not a workable option here folks.

I'm with you, only I'll add that a good part of C02 production comes form farming if you consider fertilizer production, Cow flatulence, fossil fuels to power the equipment, pump water and transporting food stuffs/raw materials etc. We simply cannot eliminate that, or a lot of people will starve and die.

Perhaps not, but we have some pretty nasty things you CAN catch that where not a serious problem 200 years ago. Some will kill you for sure..

Depends on what you mean by a "kill switch". I don't think a world wide "bad ESN/IMEI" registry would be a bad thing myself. But that's not a "hit the button, wipe your phone into uselessness" kill switch.

So how will you see it from "the dark side of the moon"?

I think so, but nobody ever invites me to more than one....

22/7 is only good out to two decimal places. Close enough for horseshoes I guess, but not very accurate after three significant digits.

Pi = (4/1) - (4/3) + (4/5) - (4/7) + (4/9) - (4/11) + (4/13) - (4/15) ... works, converges eventually to as many decimal places as you may need. Just keep cranking out until the digits you need stop changing.

There is a quicker way... Pi = 3 + 4/(2*3*4) - 4/(4*5*6) + 4/(6*7*8) - 4/(8*9*10) + 4/(10*11*12) - (4/(12*13*14)... Which converges faster but takes a bit more math.

But, hey, all these are all ways to approximate of Pi. Mine include a way to get as many digits as you may need, yours is stuck at 3 digits, which is about all you can get on a slide rule.

A real nerd would know how to calculate Pi from scratch, no shotgun required...

Pi = (4/1) - (4/3) + (4/5) - (4/7) + (4/9) - (4/11) + (4/13) - (4/15) ... (keep going until you get the number of decimal places you need.)

Why bother with the shotgun and waste the rounds conducting this worthless experiment. You are proving nothing but that you know how to draw a square and an arc and count.

OR, just get some unsuspecting length of string, a ruler and a round object like a jar or large can. Measure the circumference and divide by diameter, voila! Pi.

I'm not saying people cannot hear 100Hz, I'm saying that most audio equipment sold doesn't reproduce said frequencies. Systems capable of producing base at 150Hz and down are usually expensive and many people just don't spend the money on such systems.

Most people can clearly hear well below 100Hz.... They just don't usually listen to such material because of financial constraints. Most people cannot hear anything above 18KHz, not because audio equipment doesn't produce it, but because they cannot hear it.