In other words, you can't justify your crap in any reasonable way

I already did with point C - you are at this point mis-directing because you feel shame about your eco-crime to future humanity.

Same thing, global warming.

But not coal, which was your presumption. Your in admission to admit when you are wrong loses you any points gained by using clean reliable nuclear power.

(A) you missed point C. Remember I said C was the most important.

(B) Natural gas actually, but it's not like I can build a nuclear reactor myself and again it's not (C). I do promote nuclear power at every opportunity though so I applaud that.

(C) (still most important) I'm talking future numbers which are inherently unquantifiable until the future becomes present.

I'm not wavering; I'm also getting an Apple Watch. Honestly I think both may be useful in different circumstances; possibly the Pebble Time "past/now/future" thing may be a better UI for a watch.

I want to use both and see which idea ends up working better for me, or even if they just are useful for different things and I use them interchangeably. Lots of people own more than one "real" watch, why can't the same be true for smart watches (well, beyond the obvious drawback of cost - but then a Pebble Time and a low end Apple Watch will cost much less than a single really nice "real" watch).

Also like I said earlier, I really like eInk and like to support it when I can.

Ah, you are that slashdotter who also doesn't own a Tesla share, but checks the credit calculator for the expensive models on teslamotors.com

Teslas are pointless to me (though fun toys) until they ship hydrogen models. Never even visited the website.

They also have large but rather terrible touch screens inside, and they look just like every other sedan, a round lump.

drools about the iphone here on a refurbished samsung galaxy S2

Since I need devices I own to be practical and useful I own an iPhone, not some third-rate copy.

Have fun.

That's my motto. Or perhaps a creed. Or at least a goal. And a habit.

The joke's on you here as well, I'm wearing a watch that doesn't need electricity.

A) I'm pretty sure it required electricity to manufacture.

B) Whatever you are typing on also requires electricity.

C (most important)) The eco-crime you have committed is not specifically in *a* watch. It is in your failure to support technology which enables a vast worldwide savings of electricity by consumers that were going to have an electric watch one way or another. By backing the further use of iInk I am encouraging tens of millions later on to use the same technology. Your throwback watch help not at all, since the use of it will not convert people to your luddite ways.

I think I'm not the one who brought up the douche.

Um, you "think"?????!?!?! It seems like something you would know if you had written.

Apparently your personal Pebble

Don't own a Pebble (yet). The Pebble Time is a much more compelling device, with it's Time Stream (or whatever they call it) feature especially interesting since it's something unique to that device, I also like the inherent neutrality of the company supporting both iOS and Android and having a full and at this point well-used SDK.

Read that again - and again and again. Do you even english?

Did it not strike you that the first sentence is talking about a companies own web page (i.e. not Kickstarter), the second is about Kickstarter? No? Nothing there? Blank stare? Ok then...

Slashdot - come for the trolls, stay for the amusing lack of reading comprehension!

Good to see there are people to whom buying cheap trinkets is a matter of personal pride and sense of achievement.

The achievement is not in the trinket; it is in the advancement of technology generally. I don't care for trinkets, I care for things I buy to be useful tools. It may or may not be, but as a side effect I support color eInk which is a technology I hope spreads to other products because I like the qualities it offers.

It is because of heroes of conspicuous consumption like yourselves that the capitalism and the global warming are strong

It is because you do not support eInk and the huge savings in power consumption it offers that global warming is strong. You are by far the greater ecological offender.

you are what you watch.

Amusing! Though as you can see the catchiness of the phrase improves substantially by removing the contraction (and fixing the spelling error...). It would actually make a great advertising phrase for some watch trying to convince someone it was more desirable than other watches.

In other words, the only thing that makes preordering shit on kickstarter "less douchey" than preordering shit on another random website...

Is as mentioned; the fact that you can see the level of financial support for pre-orders, and the other aspect is that if there is not enough support they do not get your money. With a pre-order form on any other website when they have collected my money it's much harder to get it back, even if they fail to deliver.

Why do you continue to deny this simple but significant difference? You seem instead overly obsessed with fluids, which makes little sense as the Pebble Time is water resistant.

There are no "assurances" from Kickstarter (nor should there ever be; that is why the system works).

The assurance for me as a backer of the Pebble Time comes in the form that (A) they have produced products from a Kickstarter before, combined with (B) each person contributing is paying a realistic sum of money to receive a product, and there are enough people already committed that the production will go forward.

Supporting every Kickstarter is a matter of risk assessment. I'm just saying that the risk of not getting what is being promised is realistically near zero in this case.

Every person contributing gets a watch (there are no "supporter only" level tiers in this one). That's not a charity; that's a pre-order.

I don't see why there's anything wrong with this. Everyone can see enough money is going in that pre-orders will be fulfilled. The company can see that enough pre-orders are in place that they can begin an earlier run of production.

To me using Kickstarter for a pre-order of a product is LESS "douchey" than putting up a pre-order payment form on your website that is collected immediately but that you have no assurance will ever be fulfilled...

I also joined in because I want to support the tech of color eInk.

And I really liked the idea of a UI based on time for a watch, being able to scroll forward or backwards in time...

It will be really interesting to compare this with the Apple Watch, which I also plan to get. It will be very interesting to see which resonates more with the public - a more polished experience, or a much stronger battery life?

The funny thing is it's not even written by the guy that runs the site - which you would have known had you even bothered to click through once. But you are far too deep up your own info-bubble to risk reading a single word that might pop your carefully crafted iluusions.

The article clearly lays out how water (rain) is a base (not acidic at all), the oceans are alkaline (not acidic at all) and therefore all that happens is the ocean grows more or less alkaline, with zero chance of becoming "acidic". Which element of this extremely basic science concerning pH levels are you challenging exactly?

The ocean "acidification" myth is a GREAT litmus test to see if the person is interested whatsoever in science over dogma. You just failed utterly.

We should also legalize heroin and cocaine.

It's the same thing, just a different name.

"more acidic" (the term I used) kind of is, but is misleading.

The original term used - acidifying - is absolutely clear as to what it means, and is totally wrong. There is nothing acidic involved with what is happening to the ocean from CO2.

The changes from CO2 add up to the natural variance.

RTFA. I knew you alarmists were dense, but really.

I leave you with that, nothing more can be done to help you I think.