I believe it is also quite dependent on the mass of the black hole which affects the Schwarzchild radius. In the case of a super-massive black hole, spaghettification would occur well after passing the event horizon. With smaller black holes the spaghettification would occur before hitting the event horizon.

Wow, thank you everyone for the interesting and informative posts on this thread. Great to see some signal in the noise.

In Soviet Russia, signal transmits you!

Or something like that.

Perhaps they then open your glove box and get the address from insurance, registration, and other documents usually kept in the vehicle?

I just started volunteer at taproot foundation you use your professional skills to help a non-profit on your area. You can help them to build a website, or create a donor's database ... and you do it pro-bono, you need to commit a few hours a week for six months. I have been working with them for a couple of months and it has been a good experience.

Why is he modded down? He has a valid viewpoint. If you disagree reply or mod others up. I don't need the karma; I just think that this is a shame when we could have had a discussion.

/. really needs to create some kind of LAML (Logical Argument Markup Language) so knara doesn't have to keep addressing the same damn issue over and over ad infinitum. In fact, the whole internet could really cut down on redundancy if there were a premiss-conclusion data type, perhaps with some cross-site referencing thrown in. Will someone please make it so?

Because a rainbow table that included Password1 would have to store 13,537,086,546,263,552 ((26+26+10)^9) passwords, and assuming the developers were braindead and used 128-bit MD5 hashes with no salt, you'd have 1,732,747,077,921,734,656 (128*(26+26+10)^9) bits of hashes to store. That's two hundred thousand terabytes of data.

Now I understand that there are some time/memory tradeoffs that allow you to use much smaller tables and spend much more time, but even so, even the 8 character upper and lower case alphanumeric table from Project Rainbowcrack is 80GB and takes hours to crack.

So yeah, Password1 is actually not that bad. There are a lot worse! I'm a fan of pass-phrases myself.

They know it works fine? Like...really fine, on slower machines (and connections - it had bandwidth preserving functions for a long time, now there's even 2-3x compression via Opera Turbo)

The father of my buddy that I mentioned uses P4-era machine (with Celeron based on P4 even, from what I remember) with 256MB of RAM (and dial-up, in a huge city like Dnepropetrovsk). From what he says such machine isn't very atypical, upgrades are postponed much longer than in the "West". I don't have any trouble believing that Opera is a fully usable browser on them...since I have an old dual PII 266 with 192MB & win2k lying around - and latest versions of Opera still run fine when I try them (excluding Flash of course). Firefox (on mine) - no way.

And lately it even seems like Opera tries to make their GUI more approachable...

"We geeks have a hard time with sports"

Speak for yourself mate. I'm as geeky as the next nerd when it comes to computers but I still go to the gym 4 times a week and run.

Its not an either or thing with brain vs body - you can have both fit and healthy you know.

Krave -- Why not just inject the nicotine directly into your bloodstream?
TV Hat -- I'm sure nobody will think of using this to watch porn while driving!
EarVibe -- Wait... are you sure these are designed to be stuck in you ear, and not somewhere else?
iType -- Actually not that bad an idea for those of us that have fingers larger than a Barbie, and thus problems typing on tiny touchscreens.
Phubby -- Aside from being ugly as hell, actually not that bad. Any idea how many times my phone has fallen out of my shirt pocket? And when I wear it on my belt, I usually can't hear it.
BabyPlus -- Why stick the headphones you already own on your stomach, when you can pay big bucks for this glorified speaker?
Unbreakable Phone -- Geeks regard the word "unbreakable" as a challenge!
Android Microwave -- It's need for voice recognition, 'cause telling your microwave "Please make popcorn now" is much easier than just pushing the Popcorn button! Unless this doubles as a refrigerator/freezer, I'm not sure what the added smarts buys you. Plus, using a touchscreen in a high-grease environment -- what a wonderful idea!
Electronic bidet -- My wife gets pretty much the same results with a recycled plastic bottle.
Fingerist -- If you'd like to feel like you're playing a real guitar, perhaps you should, you know... buy a real guitar!
CyberClean -- What isn't clear is, after you get the crap out of your keyboard, how do you get the crap out of the CyberClean? I generally just turn my keyboard upside down and bang it on the desk a few times, and yes, it's amazing how much kruft can be in an old keyboard.
Blackberry Presenter -- Couldn't you, um, just build this functionality into the projector?
iMini Pet iPod Player -- Anybody who thinks this is a BAD idea obviously doesn't have children!

Deny everything and change nothing? I daresay you don't know China. When China denies everything, it denies everything including the changes it makes. This is big, really damn big, and changes will be made but China will not lose face talking about those changes. They will be made quietly, and if everything goes right nobody will notice until it's just normal business as usual.

(I'm not saying these changes will benefit any interests other than China's, but it may result at least in scaling back.)

What I posted is not what I want to happen but rather what will happen sooner or later if a population continually gets abused. They'll take it and take it until all of a sudden they don't any more.

It's much better to have a fair and equitable court system so that it never gets to that point but if the government ever loses legitimacy in the eyes of the citizens then it's just a matter of time.

Is this the SAME Alice and Bob that send encrypted messages?

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