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Comment Re: I hope not. (Score 3, Interesting) 113

When you come down to it, if you constantly teaching and demonstrating your values to your kids at home, the school has little influence.

Another case in point:
My son understands that I say yes as much as possible, or let him make his own decisions, but no means no. (mom is a little easier to negotiate with)

When asked a question on a test (also marked wrong) what he would do if his dad said no like the one in the story, his response was "Nothing. I would do something else"

Asked the teacher why this was marked wrong, and she said that he was expected to come up with a way to convince him.
When I explained my policy, she admitted she never considered that I only said no when I really really meant "no".

Comment Re:I hope not. (Score 1) 113

Here let me show you how this works:

Look at the standards below. If you don't "Build on others' ideas" (Standard 1) or " draw
conclusions in light of information and knowledge gained from the discussions." or"Engage eff
ectively in a range of collaborative discussions (one-on-one, in groups, and teacher-
led) with diverse partners"
You are not right, even if your conclusion is supported by the text, and theirs are not.
And the teacher is the sole arbitrator if the standards are met or not, because the standards are all subjective.

Standards in question, from http://www.corestandards.org/w...
Engage effectively in a range of collaborative
discussions (one-on-one, in groups, and teacher-
led) with diverse partners on
grade 5 topics and
texts,building on others’ ideas and expressing
their own clearly.
a. Come to discussions prepared, having read
or studied required material; explicitly draw
on that preparation and other information
known about the topic to explore ideas under
discussion.
b .Follow agreed-upon rules for discussions and
carry out assigned roles.
c.Pose and respond to specific questions by
making comments that contribute to the
discussion and elaborate on the remarks of
others.
d.Review the key ideas expressed and draw
conclusions in light of information and
knowledge gained from the discussions.
2.Determine the main ideas and supporting details
of a text read aloud or information presented in
diverse media and formats, including visually,
quantitatively, and orally.
2.Paraphrase portions of a text read aloud or
information presented in diverse media and
formats, including visually, quantitatively, and
orally.
2.Summarize a written text read aloud or
information presented in diverse media and
formats, including visually, quantitatively, and
orally.
3.
Ask and answer questions about information from
a speaker, offering appropriate elaboration and
detail.
3.
Identify the reasons and evidence a speaker
provides to support particular points.
3.
Summarize the points a speaker makes and
explain how each claim is supported by reasons
and evidence

Comment I hope not. (Score 5, Insightful) 113

I have a soon to be 6th grader.

Common core is a disaster. The homework is riddled with errors (found 3 on one page) and the instruction methodology is terrible.

Case in point: My son brought home an assignment where he was graded poorly, and one of the short answers was marked wrong. I know the material they were reading, the book Wrinkle in Time.

When I asked the teacher about it, this is what I was told:
His "team" (they are in 6 kid groups) decided the antagonists name "IT" should be pronounced "I.T.".

Under common core standards, the group can decide what the "right" answer is, as an interpretation of the fact, not the fact itself.
I can give a little under a "tomato" vrs "tah-mato", but...

I asked her if the group decided "IT" was a giant mouse instead of a giant brain, would that make the person saying it was a giant brain wrong.

She replied under the grading rules, it would.

Fuck me dead, we are raising an army of Project Managers!

No wonder public support for Common Core is about 35%

Comment Re:Repeat after me... (Score 2, Informative) 534

You are off base, it is spelled out in the Posse Comitatus law:

The Act, as modified in 1981, refers to the Armed Forces of the United States. It does not apply to the National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor. The United States Coast Guard, which operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is also not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act, primarily because the Coast Guard has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.

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