There is no logical difference between execution and murder versus imprisonment and kidnapping.

What makes one imprisonment and the other kidnapping is a TRIAL.

The standards of evidence in a death penality murder trial are higher than in ANY OTHER TRIAL. The burden of proof and evidence is significantly HIGHER.

Now here you're going to say "but I have evidence of them screwing up such trials"... yes of course... and there is evidence of them doing that with any other type of trial. What is more, you are MORE likely to find errors in a trial with higher standards. It is very common for someone to be prosecuted with an intention of executing and it not being possible to get enough evidence to support more than imprisonment.

Did you just process that? If the state LACKS evidence, they resort to imprisonment next.

In any case, I'd love to hear why executions are illegitimate in any kind of logical or rational sense. The only position that is going to argue against an execution is going to be an ideological one. Which is just your opinion. I have opinions too. You can't slap me down with anything short of logic and reason. And I am struggling to see how that is even logically possible.

But I have an open mind. Lay our logic on me. I am listening. I will keep an open mind about whatever you say.

*steeples fingers*

Hit me.

Neither is anything else always available.

Pigeons don't work in a hurricane.

Everything has a context. FM radio is better at some things then other forms of communication. However, those things are not justification for requiring that all cell phones have FM antennas.

Public shaming has existed since ALWAYS. It is a core way that human society works. All human beings know this...

Are you from a different planet?

Let me just first clear out all the people that just don't like executions... lets just take for the sake of argument that executions are going to happen. I know you don't like them... but they're here to stay. Assuming that point, this method of execution is quite a good one. It doesn't inflict pain on people, it doesn't outwardly damage the body, it is very reliable, etc. It has everything going for it so long as you accept that executions are going to happen.

Now I know you don't want to accept that and I am not forcing you to... I don't have that power. I am simply asking to separate the discussion about executions in general from this specific type of execution. I don't really want to have a long conversation about capital punishment.

If you reply to me, talk to me about THIS method of execution. That is what interests me.

On topic, I am really happy they finally did this... the previous methods had too many problems with them. This method is ideal.

It is also illegal to kidnap people and hold them against their will.

So what do you do to someone that kidnapped people and held them against their will?

Throw them in prison where you'll forcibly imprison them in a place they don't want to be.

Your citation of hypocrisy makes no logical sense. Wouldn't taxation be stealing under your logic? After all, you are compelled by force to give money you don't want to give them in many cases.

So on and so forth.

Executions are not murder. Why? There was a trial. Same reason imprisonment isn't kidnapping. There was a trial.

If you conflate an execution with a murder then you are suggesting that the trial had no meaning and if it trials have no meaning then every official government action through the courts is no different from when anyone just grabs someone and does the same thing to them.

Either you admit your error or you're effectively advocating anarchy. At which point there is no law. We'd live in some mad max post apocalyptic hell hole in a week if we followed this to its logical conclusion.

You're such a bad liar. You cited the quote but not the text because you know if you did that it would be obvious to YOU that the post you quoted did not say that.

Since I'm not a moron, it is obvious regardless.

What is more, even if I had said that in that post, which I didn't... it wasn't in this thread and it wasn't relevant to this conversation. I'm sure if we went through YOUR post history which you obscure by intentionally not logging in... I'm sure if we went through it somehow we'd find lots of quotes from you that you'd had a hard time explaining. Which is probably why you don't log in. You just troll people that do.

That is of course immaterial because either way, I said no such thing... and again even if I had said it wasn't in this thread.

You're an idiot.

I agree, that was my point. Please look at my first post, I'm not in favor of the fucking surveillance state.

I grant the technology is bleeding edge but it is the heart and soul of the issue.

There has to be some combination of centrifuges, flow batteries, all liquid batteries, etc that can solve this fucking problem.

The tiers in corporations are more guidelines. In the government they're pretty inflexible. Which is what the DoD is saying.

If it were really the same then the private sector would enjoy no competitive advantage over the government for competing for top tier labor.

They do. The tier system works quite well for the majority of labor... if anything it over pays most people dramatically. But for top tier labor it underpays them and so they don't accept the job.

As to you eating every last dick, you are attempting strawmen and neither owning up to it or apologizing. So better get whatever your favorite dick eating sauce is because you have a lot of work to do.

You said this:

""So basically a bunch of incompetent paper-pushers are being given largesse by the rest of the nation, and the economies in the rest of the nation would be better off if they seceded from the federal government, since they wouldn't have to spend so much funding all that waste?""

Quote where I said we should secede from the US government over this issue.

Or apologize for attempting a STUPID straw man.

Or enjoy your bottomless buffet of dicks for being a degenerate.

I even explained why your strawman was unacceptable. You totally missed it all. Could I suddenly in the middle of a conversation start to demand you explain your rampant pedophilia? Not legitimately. But if anyone is allowed to just make up fucking anything even if the other side said nothing about it then that would be as valid as anything.

Repent. You fucked up. Admit it. I will accept your apology and we can move forward. Being proud with me here is not making you look strong, it is making you look dishonest. You fucked up. Own it. Or you've earned your bottomless bucket of dicks.

The 3k is a large infrequent expense. You have to weigh that against what you pay your utility. You say the 3k would have to be shelled out every couple years? I'm not sure about that. That battery is offering itself at a 1000 cycles at 70 percent.

Assuming a nightly cycle of around 70 percent, you're looking at nearly 3 years at 3000 dollars.

Now factor in what you'd be paying in power... probably more than a hundred a month... you're going to be looking at 1200 dollars in potentially nullified utility bills per month.

Yes, the solar panels and electronics are another expense on top of that. But most of that stuff lasts a lot longer than the batteries. Aren't the panels supposed to last about ten years at this point?

So amortizing all these things over their service lives, I don't see the problem. It does require some financing but so does your car and house. So what.

What is more, I've seen that people are able to recondition those batteries after they hit their end of life and basically refurbish them. They have to die eventually but if you can tease couple more years out of them then you're almost doubling the cost efficiency. I saw a big thing on youtube with a battery expert that took those specific batteries apart and brought them back to near 100 percent working order after they had clapped out. I believe he basically washed the insides out with some sort of solvent or changed the battery chemistry to something else. Possibly a different electrolytic medium. The point was that the batteries came right back after doing that

That's fine... you can sit down with your crank powered FM radio during the appocolypise. I wouldn't dare take that away from you.

However, don't expect me to support you if you want EVERY cellphone to have an FM radio built into by law simply so you can do it on your cell phone.

Which as we all know would have run out of power from lack of charging LONG before the towers actually died.

How pray tell are you charging your cellphone? Hand crank? Personal diesel generator? Wind mill? The Force... that jedi thing?

The towers last as long as the cell phones themselves do which is the point. If it is the end of the world, the dead have risen, the sun hangs red in the sky, and the Elder Gods have risen... then by all means, listen to radio reports on your FM radio. But we're talking about a probably traditional radio set top which can take regular batteries unlike your cell phone, or has a built in hand crack, etc.

Name a REASONABLE situation where after days of no power you still only have your cell phone and yet need to get access to these FM radio transmissions?

There isn't one.

As I predicted, more evasions... and here is my response as promise:

Cite where I said that someone was wrong because I disagreed with them or admit you tried to straw man me... and failed.

You're stupid and worse, you're boring.

Its honestly pretty competitive with CG effects in movies. I mean, go back and watch the prequel starwars movies again. All the CG was obvious. The lighting is almost never perfect.

My personal favorite bad CG was that scorpion king mummy scene where the rock was turned into a giant insect and it looked seriously off. I'm not sure what it was... I'm assuming something with the lighting or shaders or something.

But really, if this is at all representative of what the game will look like, then I think it should be great.

You don't need to cache that much power. Just enough to move power efficiently around a neighborhood. There are some centrifuges that have been used for that purpose in a few places. They spin up quickly and discharge quickly as well. And they can go back and forth repeatedly. Keep in mind, each one of these things is going to store only a few minutes of power each. But the point is render the power draw for the whole neighborhood ZERO while the neighborhood is producing a net positive. yes, the area will generate more than it uses at certain times and use more than it generates at others. But the utilities are having a hard time accepting the power. So people might have to accept that the point of their solar should be to ZERO out their bill rather than generating any kind of profit from it.

A small lead acid bank capable of driving a house for an evening isn't that expensive. There's no reason these people with solar panels couldn't cache the power locally. Again, not for long term storage. Just enough to take you through the night and maybe into the morning. At that point your panels are going to be getting light again and batteries will start recharging. The only time you'd use grid power would be if you got some cloudy days.

A text message blasted out by the phone company would do the trick.

Most cell towers have battery back ups so they'll continue to operate even when the power drops. Cell networks do tend to work even in brown outs. Just like your FM transmitters. For the same reason. Battery backups. I think the FM towers also have onsite generators.

As to carriers disabling the FM transmitters... how many flying fucking times do I have to specifically say that I specifically think that is specifically fucked up?

I can't be any clearer. It is literally impossible for me to be any clearer. You're killing me.

Again, I'd sooner put a satellite receiver in the phone then I would an FM receiver. The sat receiver is at least useful for more than getting shitty progressive rock. I might be able to get a clean digital signal from space.

Here is one thing they could do that would improve my impression of FM, do the same thing to FM that they did to over the air TV. Make it go digital. Absent that... no.

And again... YES, they shouldn't turn your FM radio off if it is already in the fucking phone. 100 percent with you. You want to line the carrier executives against a wall and shoot them in the face for that? Signed. I'll go for that. Shoot them in the eyes. I won't stop you.

But don't tell me EVERY phone has to have an analog FM receiver in it. Give me a fucking break.