Comment Re:FFS (Score 4, Informative) 398
The same journal has a study showing pot-smoking teens are 60% less likely to finish high school than ones who don't.
I would suspect alcohol also has an undesirable effect on high school graduation rates.
The same journal has a study showing pot-smoking teens are 60% less likely to finish high school than ones who don't.
I would suspect alcohol also has an undesirable effect on high school graduation rates.
OK, I should have written my comment from Nye's perspective not mine. If these "farmers" and "programmers" aren't qualified to speak then neither are democrat politicians nor green campaigners, regardless what opinion they hold. Only the high priests of science should be allowed to say anything. If Nye is going to apply appeal to authority then he should, at least, apply it consistently.
Actually I don't think this characterizes Nye's position at all (and the article summary sucks BTW). On a show with him, Marsha Blackburn said that "I think that Bill would probably agree with this, neither he nor I am a climate scientist. He is an engineer and actor, and I am a member of Congress, and what we have to do is look at the information we get from climate scientists." He responded that "you don't need a PhD in climate science to understand what's going on". It seems a distortion to say that he thinks "only the high priests of science should be allowed to say anything," only that you need to be scientifically literate.
You originally said that to be consistent, if I shout down someone who says X is true, I should also shout down someone who says X is false. I didn't need to bring up "authority" at all to point out what a dumb statement that was.
BTW, this was also wrong:
Science does not rely on qualification or authority or consensus and the myth that it does is the biggest threat to scientific literacy today.
Consensus is part of the scientific method. You come up with a theory, test it with an experiment, publish your conclusion, and subject it to peer review where it may or may not gain consensus.
And show some f***ing consistency, please. If you're going to shout down "conservatives" for being unqualified to talk about climate change please shout down "liberals" and "greens" that talk about, and accept, climate change as being unqualified to talk about it too.
Yes, be consistent... if you shout down people who are wrong, you should also shout down people who are right.
Michael Mann. Great.
Ask him why the shepherd nomadic Genghis Khan led Mongol hordes bothered leaving Mongolia in the MWP.
Maybe because they were nomadic.
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