> Russia & China got nothing from Snowden.
Do belly-laughs count? I bet they got a number of those.
> His material is being carefully vetted by journalists and experts before any is released
Of course, since russia, china, and several others players all have their own NSA and CIA-like entities, I would assume they have made attempts, and probably been successful by now, at obtaining the entire archive... or at least, what they didn't already have of it from their own operations pre-snowden.
With Manning, I would easily make the case that nothing was revealed, because any intelligence service that couldn't get their hands on those state department cables would have to be totally incompetent and barely even trying. NSA internal docs, a bit less likely... but I wouldn't doubt they had some of it.
Now, I don't doubt that they have all of it....oh well.... its their own fault for abusing their technical abilities, NSA brought this leak upon itself.
> Bruce Schneier is one helping them in their analysis.
This is one of the few reasons to suspect they have a chance of having not been compromised; if they follow his advice of course. Discipline is hard. I remember some of the security experts expressing being quite impressed by OBLs ability to maintain an effective air gap for so many years while so prolifically using email.