I can credit DARE as the number one reason I took LSD for the first time. I wasn't really aware of hallucinogens prior to DARE and the whole "Just Say No" campaign. I found the idea of having a dream-like state while awake to be fascinating. It seemed like magic, and I couldn't wait to get my hands on some LSD or shrooms. It took me a few years (until my freshman year of high school), but I took acid as early as I was able to find it. I must say, DARE didn't disappoint at all!

Wake me up with they have the same attitude toward XBOX mods.

Sure, you can write open source software with Visual Studio, but you can also write open source software with Xcode on a Mac.

The OP complained about closed source and immediately mentions Visual Studio. Good luck getting the source code for Visual Studio or Windows. A successful open source troll would deride Visual Studio and Windows for the very same reason they criticize the Mac.

Did you actually just use "Linux and open source" and "Visual Studio" in the same post?

Other than the overheating issue, I haven't had a single problem with my 2009 Mac Pro's Firewire, PCI Express, or RAID performance. If the 2009 Mac Pro is a dog, it's an insanely fast dog.

You "doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet"? That's crazy. Of course they're going to release it. I think they'll release it TODAY.

> And Snow Leopard is basically 10.4.5 (or is it 5.5?), which isn't even a point release.

Snow Leopard is Mac OS X version 10.6.0 The latest Leopard is 10.5.8. If Snow Leopard isn't a point release like every single version of Mac OS X, I don't know what is.

Great. You left half the components out and it came to $1,000 less. Go figure. (The base config is really awesome with its 1GB of RAM) If you add the second CPU, memory, the cheapest 512MB video card, a gigabit NIC, a Firewire card, and a DVD burner you'll see that the price is over $3000.

My post was in reply to, "the mac pro is bad as they can get a systems from dell , hp and others for about $1000-$1500 less with more ram and better base video card." If you actually go to Dell's site and try to build a an eight-core Xeon machine with all of the same specs as the Mac Pro you'll only save a couple hundred dollars. An eight-core HP costs several hundred more than the Apple. Go try it for yourself.

I'll bite, you troll. A Dell eight 2.26GHz, 6GB of RAM, a 512MB video card, and a 500GB hard drive is $3,157. That's $142 less than a Mac Pro with the same specs (though the Mac has a hard drive with 140GB more space). $142 less - for a Dell. Try to build an eight-core HP for less than $4,000. Good luck!

In what way was the Apple II an open system? I owned a IIe and a IIgs and never thought of them as being especially open.