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Comment Re: But.. but, socialism! (Score 1) 870

That's an interesting theory but I don't think it fits the observed facts. Every time? Which particular wars were fought when UPC scanners came to supermarkets, or robots to assembly lines, or the automobile, or dozens of other times when technological advancement put a lot of people out of work?

Per http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104719.html, in the US, there was a long time between unemployment in the 30s and the start of World War II. It's not clear that the unemployment used that surplus -- at least not for a while. And look at 1982. Which war used up that surplus of labor?

Comment Re: But.. but, socialism! (Score 1) 870

Even if I grant that what you've stated is true -- and I don't necessarily, although I do know there are a number of people who agree with you that the standard of living dropped for some time after the industrial revolution -- it wasn't exactly my point.

The parent poster stated, "There just aren't enough jobs." That is the Luddite Fallacy (Technological Unemployment if you prefer). In every case so far since the Industrial Revolution (UPC scanners, assembly line robots, ATMs, etc. etc. etc.) that hasn't been the case. So, I ask again -- what's different now?

The only "what's different" I can think of that might actually alter this equation is strong AI, and we're still a ways off from that (although I'm completely convinced it's possible).

Comment Re: I love numbers but.... (Score 1) 253

I actually said all of these things. "Now, you can certainly argue that there are external costs that are born by everyone and that you can't compete because those costs aren't allocated correctly. That's a fair argument -- and there are definitely externalities."

My point was simply that it isn't a "no-brainer". It requires quite a bit of thought, which you haven't done.

Oh, and the OP?
"It's incredibly cost effective, a typical nuclear plant will cost $8-12bn just in construction costs, so this is already 1/12th the price of nuclear in terms of construction."

The nuclear plant produces much more energy, and produces it day and night. Neglecting externalities, if you do some simple division, you find out that the nuclear plant is still cheaper per MWh. (I think I saw that elsewhere in the thread). You're too busy calling me an idiot to do simple division or try to put some thought into the cost of externalities -- so you're completely certain of your position without having any facts at all.

Comment Re: I love numbers but.... (Score 1) 253

I'm saying that if it's a "no brainer", then you should be able to produce power more efficiently than current nuclear or coal plants. So, go sell it more cheaply. You'll make a lot of money. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Oh, you can't make money doing it? Why not? This doesn't seem like a "no brainer" to me. Now, you can certainly argue that there are external costs that are born by everyone and that you can't compete because those costs aren't allocated correctly. That's a fair argument -- and there are definitely externalities. I still don't think that it tips the balance to solar power quite yet for most applications, although as PV panels get more efficient then that will happen at some point. And solar has a huge advantage because it can easily be generated right where the power is needed, but also has a huge disadvantage because it doesn't produce in the dark.

My point is, it's definitely not a "no brainer". Just because YOU haven't thought of these things doesn't mean nobody needs to.

Comment Re:All of it (Score 1) 187

Wow, you're right! "sudo apt-get install openssh-server sshfs", configuring it, and then figuring out how to access that from every device you have is certainly easier than installing the DropBox app.

You and I (and probably a lot of people on Slashdot) know how to set up such things. Most people don't. And even those of us who do don't always enjoy reinventing the wheel. I completely get that you don't want or need to use such services, but the attitude of "why would ANYONE want such a thing" really baffles me.

And besides, I use yum, you insensitive clod!

Comment Re:All of it (Score 1) 187

And really, why should you buy power from the power company? It only works as long as the power company is in business. Get a generator, truck in some fuel I say!

They're not exactly equivalent, but I assume you actually know some valid answers to "why would I ever store stuff on a cloud service" and you're just being obstinate. (I admire obstinacy! ) And, of course, it's entirely possible to encrypt the data on a cloud service so that it remains "your business".

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