"The problem is it will be abused. It will be used for things beyond the scope they claimed it will be."

And that's intentional. Most have no clue what's really going on in the world... the elites are afraid of political awakening.

This (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Science on reasoning, reason doesn't work the way we thought it did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Brezinski at a press conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

The real news:

http://therealnews.com/t2/

http://www.amazon.com/Democrac...
http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-G...
http://www.amazon.com/National...

Look at the following graphs:

IMGUR link - http://imgur.com/a/FShfb

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...

And then...

WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would Stay Cheap

http://www.businessinsider.com...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Free markets?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

http://www.amazon.com/Empire-I...

"We now live in two Americas. One—now the minority—functions in a print-based, literate world that can cope with complexity and can separate illusion from truth. The other—the majority—is retreating from a reality-based world into one of false certainty and magic. To this majority—which crosses social class lines, though the poor are overwhelmingly affected—presidential debate and political rhetoric is pitched at a sixth-grade reading level. In this “other America,” serious film and theater, as well as newspapers and books, are being pushed to the margins of society.

In the tradition of Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism and Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death, Pulitzer Prize-winner Chris Hedges navigates this culture—attending WWF contests, the Adult Video News Awards in Las Vegas, and Ivy League graduation ceremonies—to expose an age of terrifying decline and heightened self-delusion."

Important history:

http://williamblum.org/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

... of course they know who you are. You need an IP to send and receive information, just the nature of making a connection leaves a trail all by itself. Next it's not that hard to develop mathematical techniques to analyze text and language in posts since they can analyze that most people have limited memory and interest by nature of them being finite beings and can simply build profiles by simply combining all the little tiny bits of different info into some unique ID if they wanted to.

The nature of our technology has augmented our ability to see and detect so much it's increasingly difficult to hide anymore. I shudder to think how small cameras are becoming and how they will be all pervasive where it matters. We're basically moving into a "tripwire" society where hidden and not so hidden automated track wherever you go what you do and all that data can be stored, analyzed, etc.

"We do not have a shortage of CS workers in this country, we have a surplus, and with some provinces having over 10% unemployment rates Harper is seemingly doing everything he can to keep Canadians out of Canadian jobs."

If you think anyone of the parties in government gives a damn about you then you need to learn about the myth of "balance" in capitalist societies

http://homepages.law.asu.edu/~...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

Overthrowing governments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

http://www.amazon.com/War-Rack...

"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil intersts in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested." [p. 10]

"War is a racket. ...It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." [p. 23] "The general public shoulders the bill [for war]. This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations." [p. 24]

The 9 trillion dollar bank bailout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Libor scandal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...

Rule of law is impossible under capitalism, since the kings of business (he who has the gold makes the rules) get to do whatever they want and the public gets fucked.

http://williamblum.org/

So if you want to fight corruption "the traditional way" (electoral politics), you're dead in the water because most people aren't going to give up their deeply felt emotions and aren't very bright. This way of doing things is limited because of the limits of history and the amount of energy it takes to transform the minds of a large population and the fact that the media is co-opted. There are things that can be done but you'd have to be really committed and not a change the world 'faker' like most people are (aka they don't want to risk anything).

http://therealnews.com/t2/

You need to know that most people who are voting in electoral politics don't live in reality (that's a sizeable chunk, many millions of people, totally oblivious). The real news is the cure for that. Hang out in places where smart people exist, avoid traditional media mostly and always keep them at arms length.

You're a moron if you believe this...

The myth of "balance" in capitalist societies:

http://homepages.law.asu.edu/~...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

Overthrowing governments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

http://www.amazon.com/War-Rack...

"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil intersts in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested." [p. 10]

"War is a racket. ...It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." [p. 23] "The general public shoulders the bill [for war]. This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations." [p. 24]

The 9 trillion dollar bank bailout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Libor scandal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...

Rule of law is impossible under capitalism, since the kings of business (he who has the gold makes the rules) get to do whatever they want and the public gets fucked.

http://williamblum.org/

So if you want to fight corruption "the traditional way" (electoral politics), you're dead in the water because most people aren't going to give up their deeply felt emotions and aren't very bright. This way of doing things is limited because of the limits of history and the amount of energy it takes to transform the minds of a large population and the fact that the media is co-opted. There are things that can be done but you'd have to be really committed and not a change the world 'faker' like most people are (aka they don't want to risk anything).

http://therealnews.com/t2/

You need to know that most people who are voting in electoral politics don't live in reality (that's a sizeable chunk, many millions of people, totally oblivious). The real news is the cure for that. Hang out in places where smart people exist, avoid traditional media mostly and always keep them at arms length.

"My impression is that law enforcement has gotten entirely too lazy and to disrespectful of the rights and well-being of the citizens that are supposed to protect."

You have no clue what's really going on in the world... the elites are afraid of political awakening. This (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Science on reasoning, reason doesn't work the way we thought it did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Brezinski at a press conferenec conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

The real news:
http://therealnews.com/t2/ [therealnews.com]

http://www.amazon.com/Democrac...

Look at the following graphs:

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...
http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...
http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...

And then...

WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would Stay Cheap

http://www.businessinsider.com...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Free markets?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

http://www.amazon.com/Empire-I...

"We now live in two Americas. One—now the minority—functions in a print-based, literate world that can cope with complexity and can separate illusion from truth. The other—the majority—is retreating from a reality-based world into one of false certainty and magic. To this majority—which crosses social class lines, though the poor are overwhelmingly affected—presidential debate and political rhetoric is pitched at a sixth-grade reading level. In this “other America,” serious film and theater, as well as newspapers and books, are being pushed to the margins of society.

In the tradition of Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism and Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death, Pulitzer Prize-winner Chris Hedges navigates this culture—attending WWF contests, the Adult Video News Awards in Las Vegas, and Ivy League graduation ceremonies—to expose an age of terrifying decline and heightened self-delusion."

"“A witty saying proves nothing.” --Voltaire"

The problem you're not seeing is, you have no facts and are not even qualified to ask the question (aka feasability) all you are doing is making shit up in your imagination, this universe works according to the laws of nature. It's not a magical god device. Any intelligence is going to have major trade offs, for instance certain animals are better than us at certain tasks because they traded one skill for another. The same will apply to any future intelligence because it is made of matter and energy. Not only that, you can't ask the question intelligibly until the facts showing its possible and feasible are there to begin with.

“The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. ”--Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era, Former United States National Security Advisor.

http://www.amazon.com/Between-...

The (mass surveillance) by the NSA is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor.

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...

And then...

WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would Stay Cheap

http://www.businessinsider.com...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Free markets?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

http://www.amazon.com/Empire-I...

http://www.amazon.com/Democrac...

"We now live in two Americas. One—now the minority—functions in a print-based, literate world that can cope with complexity and can separate illusion from truth. The other—the majority—is retreating from a reality-based world into one of false certainty and magic. To this majority—which crosses social class lines, though the poor are overwhelmingly affected—presidential debate and political rhetoric is pitched at a sixth-grade reading level. In this “other America,” serious film and theater, as well as newspapers and books, are being pushed to the margins of society.

In the tradition of Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism and Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death, Pulitzer Prize-winner Chris Hedges navigates this culture—attending WWF contests, the Adult Video News Awards in Las Vegas, and Ivy League graduation ceremonies—to expose an age of terrifying decline and heightened self-delusion."

On reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

"You're objecting to a hypothetical discussion about possible future technologies by demanding evidence that we can produce that technology today"

That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.– Christopher Hitchens.

The problem is your suppositions are not based on evidence, they are fantasy based fear mongering. The only "AI" you know of is electronic chip based, you don't know of any other. Therefore your argument is without any evidence, and hence can safely be rejected. It's like "Supposing leprechauns exists, what can be done to stop them?" It's a nonsensical question because if I asked you what "real AI" was you couldn't even define it, so you're asking an undefined question because you think the word "real AI" has some real meaning but if I asked you to point to a "real AI" you couldn't. Words are not reality if you can't point to an example.

"I was amazed to read major American newspapers and to see for myself how drastically what they were reporting was different than what was actually going on."

The elites are afraid of political awakening, and you really don't understand what science has discovered about the brian... you dear sir, don't live in 'reality'. See the science:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Also a real news site:

http://therealnews.com/t2/

The (mass surveillance) by the NSA is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Look at the following graphs:

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...
http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...
http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...

And then...

WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would Stay Cheap

http://www.businessinsider.com...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Free markets?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

http://www.amazon.com/Empire-I...

http://www.amazon.com/Democrac...

"We now live in two Americas. One—now the minority—functions in a print-based, literate world that can cope with complexity and can separate illusion from truth. The other—the majority—is retreating from a reality-based world into one of false certainty and magic. To this majority—which crosses social class lines, though the poor are overwhelmingly affected—presidential debate and political rhetoric is pitched at a sixth-grade reading level. In this “other America,” serious film and theater, as well as newspapers and books, are being pushed to the margins of society.

In the tradition of Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism and Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death, Pulitzer Prize-winner Chris Hedges navigates this culture—attending WWF contests, the Adult Video News Awards in Las Vegas, and Ivy League graduation ceremonies—to expose an age of terrifying decline and heightened self-delusion."

"The idea that it could be foolish should only add to the idea that it would be dangerous."

So is all life on planet earth, life on earth besides humanity are already "foreign AI". So I don't share your concerns because human beings are projecting their animal psyche on a piece of hardware that has no conscious awareness, it would be like misprogramming your toaster or the mars rover.

You're not thinking straight any intelligent AI built by human beings would be built to be robust or durable like our brains, our brains have massive redundancy. Consider our brains don't just keel over when they get damaged by stray cosmic rays or other problems like being tackled in contact sports, there is a slow degradation in ability. So all you'd have to do to an AI is discover it's strenghts and weaknesses no matter how intelligent it is because intelligence doesn't mean anything by itself, say your stephen hawking, suppose we gave him super AI, he'd still be in a wheel chair unable to do much of anything because in order to heal himself he is subject to the laws of physics and biology, aka there's no guarantee that there's this thing called infinite self-modifiable improvement since all improvements have trade offs, if you doubt this consider engineering CPU's like the pentium 4, the P4 had many stages to hit higher clock frequency. You can google "P4 Pipeline stages" or such things to figure out what the trade offs were, but you don't get everything. Many animals have superior abilities to human beings but there was a trade off because there is only so much space and limits on how certain matter can be configured in that space.

You're completely forgetting that the universe has limits, it's not this infinite god device. Life took billions of years to create human intelligence, that means that any improvement will have peaks and hard walls that are not easily jumped given the laws of physics. Look at what happened to CPU clock speed it hit a giant brick wall almost 10 years ago, around 2006 we topped out at 3.4-3.6 ghz, all CPU's are still released at 3-4ghz and can't even go little past 5 Ghz. AI will have massively similar problems because not all problems are parallelizable, same way GPU's won't replace CPU's because CPU's specialize in sequential instructions that are dependent on the order in which they are sequentially arranged. This puts a hard limit on AI's ability to solve problems. Check out ahmdal's law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...

"I think, however, that part of the reason scifi writers have written stories about out-of-control AIs so many times is that it should be a valid concern."

I don't considering that most human beings are incapable of higher level thought. Right now most citizens throughout the world are voting against their own interests. The ease at which mankind (a real intelligence) can be deluded and tricked means that any intelligence of sufficient complexity can be tricked, it costs resources to double check information. A significant amount of time and energy. The laws of physics put strict limits on AI and not to mention human beings have nuclear weapons, and can also simply deny AI a power source (shut off the electricity).

AI's will consume energy, just like any other form of life. All one has to do is deprive it of resources and starve the beast, or simply overwhelm it with false information. AI's are not gods, they are subject to the laws of nature and will have all sorts of bugs and special cases that can frustrate that intelligence. Just like human beings have serious flaws as a result of their evolutionary history. So too will AI's have limits defined by the universes structure.

"We humans are intelligent enough to form effective and equitable social structures, we just don't have the collective stomach for removing the saboteurs from our society."

But that means you're not intelligent if you leave the saboteurs alone. Some science on reasoning, someone can tell you what is true and you won't believe them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

"Just because you assume something is "fundamentally irrational" doesn't mean it is."

There are countless examples of capitalisms fundamental irrationality and waste in terms of natural resources. You should learn some science, I can tell you the facts and you won't believe them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

"Gradually, particularly over the past 75 years or so, most of these aspects of the original governmental structure have gradually been overruled -- often in the name of "democracy" or "protecting the people" or providing aid and help to the poor through a central system."

Without this helping the poor capitalism would have fallen, let's be honest here. The american/Europe/English capitalist governments all had these problems because capitalism is fundamentally irrational at based reflecting the irrationality of mankind. All these changes were required to keep the capitalist system going. Say what you want but Lenin was correct about imperalism being the highest stage of capitalism.

http://www.marxists.org/archiv...

The reality is human beings just aren't intelligent enough to form long lasting social orders because too many people have negative evolutionary characteristics they've inherited from the past. Our primate psychology is at the root of everything regardless of what collection of words and labels one flies under. The biology is still there.