Alright sounds fair. Why can't a consortium or guild provide this certification? For coders who need something done will be programmers who will earn less and therefore no need for H1B1s and for critical architects and SOA for critical projects you can have certified engineers?

We could have 2 grades rather than average both of them and not having enough talent for one, yet be too expensive for the other use?

Really? Go look at people posting here and some of the job ads if you do not believe me that kids start at $60k a year?

Not to sound assholish but I thought only Indians would be doing IT and dropped out of CS to do business. Worst mistake ever! I am happy just to make 50k in a few years of experience so yes I do not believe they deserve a rise and HR and accounting need a way to conserve costs.

Only in slashdot is it discussed there are starving programmers all making 30k a year thanks to those horrible greedy H1B1 recruiters. I do not see it. I am being honest as I see it no different than CEOs whinning about making less than a million.

What is a good starting and experienced programmer salary? 100k a year? Unless they are specialized or own their companies a programmer should not make that much. Simple and the corporations are just trying to reballance the market. American programmers make nearly 2x as much as any other major so I have little sympathy.

I saw an episode of house hunters.

You can buy for $100k so yes it is cheap.

Bare in mind these companies are used to paying 2009 great recession salaries of 40k a year less.

The programmer who did this happily accepted as there was no work. Now he left. Employers need a reality check as the economy now is not 2009 anymore.l

... ok put the emotion aside here. Play the view for the corporation for a minute?

Name one field besides the medical industry that pays college kids with 0 years experience $60,000 a year!!

I know college buddies who made $14/hr and lived with their parents after graduating from a bachelors in business?! They were lucky and happy to make that much as it was their first job. Correction doctors make $30,000 a year for 2 years first in residency.

Why should a programmer make as much as a doctor??

Supply and demand is why. Slashdotters may hate my argument here but look at it through the employers eyes who need stuff done? There is a shortage right now. Otherwise why should a kid who has never worked a day in his life out of school earn nearly $70,000 a year?

If you all hate Indians taking jobs you need to lower your salary more to what other majors make including even those in the medical industry. My brother can't find any programmers. The same ones were jerks and demanded $70,000 a year and now were all butt hurt when the great recession hit. The average programmer is worth $50,000 a year and HR caps it to that with 5 years experience in Memphis.

So basically kids out of school make $10,000 more than the average.. see an issue with this? H1B1 are needed to fill in then due to a lack of qualified candidates to positions.

I used av-totals. They are a professional certification group

Still I trusted them and privdog on an older system I used to run based on good ratings. That and I used commodo dragon for a little while so I wouldn't be spied upon.

Turns out I had been had.

Yes Comodo had a good name to it until today. Shame on you!

Shoot Hairyfeet is a big proponent of them and I used to use both too.

Wow.

I hope MS decertifies all Comodo certificates. I expect a big lawsuit from this and perhaps Commodo disabling Microsofts root certificates in return. Fun times.

Another lawsuit coming up.

What worries me is corporations too now bust SSL as well to spy on employees.

Now since the cat is out of the bag this maybe common. This will kill all commerce on the web as payment processing companies insurance plans won't insure online transactions without proof of a true encrypted connection.

This in term will de-value the online advertisement market if people stop buying shit online.

We need to stand up and do something and real advertisers need to step in before their business models get destroyed. This is just insanity! I would not be surprised if Google certificates do just this but Google seems too smart to be a snake which swallows its own tail.

GaAS were used on the 1st transistors 50 years ago but later switched to Silicon as they did not operate in heat which was important for NASA and boeing back in the early 1960s. Unless things radically changed

I watched a TV show on the history of silicon valley and Mayfield electrons who really invented the modern silicon chips and transistors. Intel spun off and so did AMD by the early 1970s.

The first transistors on a slab of semiconductors were made of GaAS but had trouble with temperature and reliability as Nasa and Boeing at the time were the biggest customers. Silicon was used as it was more stable and can withstand higher temperatures.

I am surprised they are considering GaAS again after it failed

I was thinking the same thing.

Sounds like they can make mobile games or something. Didn't they make sonic for the PS3 or WII or something

Also the same with business reliance on lines of credit to pay employees and suppliers.

No one pays in cash and that is a common misconception today. Wall Street likes smooth lines and no bumps which lines of credit pay for daily operations. No lines of credit POOF out of business even if you have money it means suppkiers who put in 90 days pay as they too used a line of credit can't pay your employer. So the cash reserves will go with them as well.

Lovely. In 1929 only the few big titans of industry was so dependent on lines of credit. Not true in 2015

No they can't.

It will cause a great depression not seen since WWII. Reason being is the way the books are counted at the banks. Imagine the game of hot potato in kindergarten? Now imagine each time you caught it counted as an asset. When you throw it it counted as another asset.

Debt = assets. Not liabilities today??

See the problem? So since everyone is in a web of IOUs you close one down and it impacts the others and the house of cards collapss in a domino effect hence 2008 financial crises. Difference is we got bailed out back then. Today ... there is no more cash to do so.

That was because the house majority leader at the time was from Las Vegas.

Needless to say the locals heavily oppose it in their backyard.