And then slow devices cause the server to fail to start correctly every time? There is a reason that so many init.d startup scripts had sleep statements. It makes sense to argue that the timeout is too long but it make no sense that things shouldn't wait for things they depend on. That's the whole point of "dependency based booting", most of the systemd alternatives do the exact same thing.
it does not halt and wait for a rescue cd. It waits for the set timeout to expire(5 mins afik) but dont let facts get in the way of a good troll.
This is the correct behaviour. If a filesystem doesn't mount, it will hold off on anything that depends on the filesystem working. I can't imagine why you would want it any other way.
I have yet to see a good Linux blu-ray player. The result is that I simply rip the blu-ray with makemkv and then run the result through handbrake to bring the size down a bit. This has the added advantage that my quad core xbmc box ($110 CAD) lets me browse though my movie collection on my NAS using my remote and that's far less effort than swapping discs. This also came in handy when I was in Spain and Amazon sent me the US region movie instead of the EU region movie and the blasted thing wouldn't play in my EU locked blu ray player.
I can't tell if you are stupid or just a troll but I'll respond anyways. One of Systemds improvements is that it handles process (apache etc)reloads. One advantage to this, is that things are now restarted in the exact same environment (path, variables, CWD etc) as when the system is booting. The next advantage is that networking restart no longer needs to be run with nohup when done remotely, it just works now instead of dropping the interface and then dying.
This means that if say, a webdev or a junior admin makes a typo in a daemon and it fails to start you can now just use journalctl to see the output that previously went to console.
Less often(usually when I'm doing the initial setup), are things like iscsi, glusterfs etc that choked hard under the old init system and still need a bit (although easier) tweaking with systemd.
So all of the distros use the same network config as Redhat? Same
What is happening is that Systemd is waiting for either the daemon to come up, or a timeout before it continues. If you wait about 5 minutes, the boot will resume. (which I agree is an annoyingly long default) The downside of doing things the way they were before was that if something was slow to mount, the system would blindly continue which is why I've seen a ton of boot scripts with sleep statements in them.
The people that know the difference between AT&T and BSD flavors, especially after the 4.4 Tahoe lawsuit know that you don't just add stuff for politics's sake. For example, Sendmail took a ton of revisions before it was secure.
Sendmail took a ton of revisions before it was secure because it wasn't written with security in mind. Qmail, Postfix and Exim haven't had any near the number of problems sendmail had.
And we are all going to relearn this lesson with systemd, with one large code blob running as root (breaking the philosophy from decades of UNIX state that you run stuff as root as little as possible), so this means one large remote root exploit waiting to happen... and all it takes is a weakness on the ports systemd listens to.
This is just FUD.
1 Systemd is modular with components running with each componant running with the least amount of privilate to do it's job.
2. The network components not a part of the core project and are very optional.
3. I have yet to see any distro enable the network components at all, let alone by default.
So, production systems now have this major chunk of nascent code that is going to be a bonanza for the blackhats. All we have is to cross fingers and hope that the systemd coders at least paid lip service to security... but if something as mature as OpenSSL can fall, it only is a matter of time before systemd gets hit and hit hard, since AFAIK, there are no experts familiar with secure/defensive programming coding systemd.
As far as you know? I have already seen audits of the code for both correctness and security.
Oh well. Oracle Solaris can be easily moved to, and it isn't open source... but it has stood the test of time when it comes to security.
The same Solaris who dumped sysv bootup scripts a few years back in favor of their shiny new system that's very similar to systemd? Good plan!
Who keeps modding these posts up? Using "journalctl -f" to view output from stderr to debug why daemons aren't starting is a feature I use often as part of my job. If there was ever a version of systemd that didn't log stderr, it was a short lived bug.
It is actually. Systemd has mount unit files that can specify before and after dependencies so I can tell it I want it to load after the network and daemons they depend on but before things like ftp, apache etc.
This is actually a problem I needed to solve.
It worked.. except when it didn't. I should not have to hack my init scripts just because I have iSCSI or Clustered Fileystem mounts. Init was made in a time when the boot dependencies are more flat and don't do well at all when your setup requires network+daemon before the filesystem can be mounted.
6 years ago I moved from Canada to Spain. Should I have bought all new DVDs and Blu Rays when I did? And should I have bought them again when I came back last year? My favorite was the Blu Ray I bought from Amazon UK that had a US region lock so it refused to play in my Blu Ray player. The best fix? Rip it and stream it off my NAS.
And don't even get me started on the social aspect. I spent 5 years having people send me links to movies and trailers only to discover they are region locked and getting the same complaint when I sent links to my friends and this is still a problem now that I have friends in 10 different countries. And if I wanted to play online scrabble against my family? Not permitted. Europeans can only play against other Europeans and not anyone in North America.
Region coding is just plain evil and people hate it for more reasons than just not wanting to pay for things
Add http://codecombat.com/ to that list.
That is the sort of Job description that's destined to fail and I would settle for some software that tracks domains, SSL certs etc and notifies (with an off switch when I want something to die) me when things need to be renewed. If you rely on the upstream provider, you end up renewing too much.
Mind you, in this case, I would not be surprised if they had actually renewed the certificate but didn't catch that the intermediate cert would cause the already issued certs to expire early. As someone else posted: there is something wrong with their setup if they allowed certs to be issued with expiry dates after the intermediate cert.
If you can't trust your developers, you have more than the GPL to worry about. If you think the cost of a GPL violation is bad, just wait and see the results of someone borrowing code claimed by a former employer (or even writing code too similar). Just ask Google where the one thing that has cost them the most pain so far, was a 9 line function that one of their programmers copied into the Android source code..
Any circuit design must contain at least one part which is obsolete, two parts which are unobtainable, and three parts which are still under development.
