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Comment Re:What global warming? (Score 1) 573

Yup. That's about the level of 'argument' presented by Patrick Moore. It basically amounts to just making stuff up. Here is the temperature increase over the last 18 and 26 years according to the satellite reconstruction compiled by skeptic Roy Spencer: http://woodfortrees.org/plot/u... . The warming over the period is considerable. Equivalent to billions of nuclear bombs worth of accumulated energy.

Comment Re:incredulity != evidence (Score 2) 573

He shows he hasn't read an IPCC report when he says IPCC will "consider only the human causes of global warming". IPCC outlines scientific consensus on all sources of climate change from solar cycles to milankovitch cycles.

Honestly, there's a whole chapter on it. He could have figured this just by reading the headers.

Comment incredulity != evidence (Score 5, Informative) 573

Needless to say, scientists disagree. Patrick Moore shows he knows little of science when he says "There is no scientific proof." There is very compelling evidence, but there is no such thing as "Scientific proof".

He laughably accuses scientists of being in the pay of vested interests all the while being a PR front for fossil fuel interests such as the Heartland Institute that published this very piece.

His 'argument' amounts to long debunked talking points.

He shows he hasn't read an IPCC report when he says IPCC will "consider only the human causes of global warming". IPCC outlines scientific consensus on all sources of climate change from solar cycles to milankovitch cycles.

He shows he hasn't looked at paleoclimate reconstructions which show that the Earth has been generally cooling for the last 8000 years and that the current temperatures are likely higher than at least the last couple thousand.

The rest of his argument boils down to simple incredulity, which is not very compelling.

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Greenpeace Co-Founder Declares Himself a Climate Change Skeptic 573

New submitter PensacolaSlick writes that [Patrick Moore a], co-founder of Greenpeace, and seven-year director of Greenpeace International, with other very pro-environmental credentials, has come out with a brief rationale for why he is "skeptical that humans are the main cause of climate change and that it will be catastrophic in the near future." He argues instead that in a historical context, human activity has saved the planet, declaring that "at 400 parts per million, all our food crops, forests, and natural ecosystems are still on a starvation diet for carbon dioxide." (Consider the source, which according to the New York Times is "the primary American organization pushing climate change skepticism.") Moore breaks with what might be expected of a Greenpeace founder as well in that he is currently chair of Allow Golden Rice.

Comment Re:heartland.org? (Score 1) 5

Patrick Moore has been shilling for the fossil fuel/nuclear industry for over a decade. He is more favourable towards the scientific consensus when shilling for the Nuclear industry. Heartland advocates for the fossil fuel industry and appears to be paying the bills these days. http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind...

His opening paragraph is laughable: "There is no scientific proof..." What is scientific proof? There is no such thing as "scientific proof". There is compelling evidence, but there cannot ever be such a thing as "scientific proof"

The rationale he outlines is nothing more than incredulity and a gish gallop of long debunked talking points. Not compelling.

Comment Re:You don't say... (Score 2) 606

Does having a black president create a 'system of disadvantage based on race'? Let's look to the news:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/03/09/ferguson-mo-judge-resigns/24673097/

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2015/03/black-america

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/missouri-supreme-court-takes-over-cases-in-ferguson-judge-resigns/article_7442c873-a1a1-581f-b4b4-20f93972d91e.html

http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2015/03/05/390697727/a-black-tax-at-charlottes-ritz-carlton

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/03/07/police_officer_shoots_apparently_unarmed_black_teenager_in_wisconsin.html

I do not see whites being systemically disadvantaged here.

Comment Re:You don't say... (Score 3, Interesting) 606

"Racism describes a system of disadvantage based on race. Black people can't be racist" - Dear White People

I'm not sure I entirely agree, but it is possible that there is a difference in the severity of an action depending on whether it is perpetrated by the advantaged against the disadvantaged, or the reverse.

For instance, in 1959 black people were excluded from libraries in Sourth Carolina. This undoubtedly contributed to a system of disadvantage based on race. Here's a heart warming video of a 9 year old Ronald McNair standing up for himself in 1959. Would white people have cared if a library was created in retaliation that excluded whites? They probably would have shrugged and laughed.

That said, I doubt that a black fraternity chanting about honkies would go unpunished. You are deluded if you think we live in a society where black people get away with shit

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