Comment Re:I love the snark here (Score 1) 81
Apparently you're out of arguments. As expected.
Yeah, they also promised not to harm Ukrainian territorial integrity if Ukraine gave up it's nuclear arsenal too.
First of all, it's still up for debate, whether they did. Crimeans voted to secede, which is one of the provisions of the UN Charta.
Also, the US (as one of the signatories of the Budapest Memorandum) was supposed to
3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence its politics.
Instead it pumped over 5 billion USD into it and was responsible for TWO coups, one of them successful. (Check Nuland, or Obama's recent speech about how the US "brokered a deal" to transition power).
Also, stop acting as if it wasn't in everybody's fucking best interest to not have another country with nuclear capabilities in Europe.
It turns out that nothing that comes out of the <insert any country except for Finland here> government's mouths is trustworthy.
FTFY. You can't trust any government (except the Finns).
Your anti-US rhetoric makes that pretty clear.
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Right. Because there's only one "right" view. [...] I do, however condemn the actions of all participating parties: US, EU and Russia. It's embarrassing to have such petty conflicts, in the XXI century.
Very anti-US what I'm writing there. Extremely. Not.
Has it learnt lessons? Most definitely.
LOL, wut?! Apparently not the right ones, see NSA, Lybia, Syria, ISIL, Sudan, Venezuela, Iraq #3 (or was it 4?), Afghanistan, support of Gaza war^H^H^Hgenocide last summer, fucking Ferguson, the list goes on and on.
And then you're calling me one-sided? Get off those hard drugs/pharmaceuticals, dude. They're bad for your perception of actual reality. Try some LSD instead.
You don't have to admit that you're wrong, just do yourself a favor and stop embarrassing yourself with your ignorance in front of every other sane person in the room.
I can't tell if you're ignorant, or just Russian, but what? -
Lots of Russians don't support what's happening, Captain Stereotype.
You realise that's exactly how Russia has treated that Tatars [...]
You do realize what the Tatars were doing during WWII? You also do realize that the USSR != Russia? You do realize that the USSR apologized?
No it hasn't, it's was a primarily Tatar population until post-World War II when the USSR ethnically cleansed them from the region.
Get your facts straight: "[Tatars were] the relative largest ethnic population until the end of 19th century[...]" ([Crimean Tatars]
The fact you're trying to justify it tells us one thing, that you only support the Russian point of view, and are wholly against the view of almost the entirety of the rest of the world. That's not balanced or rational, that's called being a Russian puppet.
Right. Because there's only one "right" view. You know what your opinion tells me? That you've been successfully brainwashed.
As opposed to you, my view is not one-sided. I do, however condemn the actions of all participating parties: US, EU and Russia. It's embarrassing to have such petty conflicts, in the XXI century.
Also, as opposed to you, I've actually been around the places we're talking about, so please, kindly, do shut up if you have no clue of what you're talking about.
I guess we both agree that it's humiliating for all participating parties to let it have come to this and both hope that the situation won't escalate further.
Regarding Crimea, and after looking at what is happening in the east, I fully support Russia's sending in of troops to avert the coup-powers treating the Crimean peoples as "subhumans". Besides, the only issue, where they've overstepped their boundaries is exactly that: overstepping the boundaries of their bases' perimeters. Russia was allowed to have a *lot* of troops in Crimea (AFAIK up to 50k or so). So it's not as black and white as you seem to understand it.
"they weren't given the chance to tell us openly"
Crimea (and Sevastopol) was an autonomous region of Ukraine with a predominantly Russian population (which has been so since Catherine the Great). They chose to secede.
Tell me, if you were distinguishable as a foreigner and the Ku Klux Clan/Nazis/whatever would take over the Hill, wouldn't you want to make use of your autonomy as fast as possible to declare yourself independent of them? Because that's what happened there. Somehow, though, the "international community" wanted them to wait and see what would happen. (Hint, look at Odessa, Donbass and other examples and you can have an idea of what would have happened.)
[In the 1991 Ukrainian independence referendum, btw, Crimea (and Sevastopol) voted with only ~56% for the independence of Ukraine (turnout at 60%). Also, on 01/20/1991, there was another referendum in Crimea (and Sevastopol) about its reinstitution as an Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic as part of the participants of the union agreement (i.e. the USSR) in which ~81% of the Crimean population voted affirmative (i.e. to become part of the union as an autonomous republic again.) and, though previously existing as an an ASSR only as part of the RSFSR, it was instead integrated into the Ukrainian sphere of influence. (Crimean ASSR)
I think this is also an interesting and often forgotten tidbit in the argument about where Crimea belongs.]
there was no Scottish style referendum where the people were given the option without being asked at gunpoint.
You mean a Scottish style referendum, where the BBC was used to sway public opinion in London's favor? What happened to the promises of greater autonomy for Scotland? Regardless of these rhetorics, I haven't seen any conclusive indication of the 2014 Crimean referendum being held at gunpoint. What I did see is that the (western) media didn't have issues accepting the transparent ballot boxes during the Ukrainian election, while the same containers were heavily criticized during the Crimean refendum.
Regarding NATO, again, it should have ceased to exist together with the Warsaw Pact, instead NATO builds anti-missile systems in Europe that point you know where.
"Why is it bad when the US funds NGOs but okay for other nations to fund GOs?"
First of all, what's the difference, whether you fund the opposition directly or indirectly?
And second, the extortionist methods of the US using economic blockades, briberies and corporate takeovers of other countries together with the installation of puppet governments stands in absolutely no comparison to the (also embarrassing) actions of any other country including Russia. The dollar imperialism along with might projections to subjugate other nations and countries is just wrong by any (untwisted) ethical measure.
"far right National Front"
Just look at who's in power in Kiev. Same shit. Probably worse; one word: "Subhumans."
"it's nonsense to keep criticising the US and to defend Russia"
Both sides are bad^h^h^hterrible, but the truth is what matters. And it is being twisted in many ways. I've seen many times how the media presents single data points as common practice, totally distorts reality or makes up things to suite their current policy. Seen this in and with the USSR, Russia, Ukraine, Austria & Germany, Britain, Greece, US,
Seen this happen so many times that I just don't believe a word without double and triple-checking them for facts.
The more a side seems to be bashed on, the more I try to understand their position. Be it Microsoft or Russia. There are exceptions (e.g. SCO).
I believe we should all step back and work together as people/humans, not as governments. That's the only way we can focus on our similarities and achieve peaceful synergies. Vying for domination is a zero-sum game at best and I prefer a multi-polar world over a unipolar any day.
I cannot believe you would honestly be supportive of people being killed for trying to live.
Are you serious? They launched a full-scale war last year over what should have been a fucking criminal case.
I'm completely opposed to any deaths, but unfortunately my opinion counts little, because apparently hypocrisy is rooted so deep that people in neighboring countries are not regarded as humans but as animals for slaughter.
Regardless of that and the notion of "who are 'you' to decide the future of another nation" -- the attitude that is probably creating most tensions all over the world and should be long gone --, it is possible to have a check on all and any movement of every military unit.
Such an omniscience in relation to reconnaissance coupled with the military capability of the UN is more than enough to prevent any of the non-superpower countries from doing anything that could seriously affect stability in the surrounding region(s).
Regarding Russia's so-called aggression, I'd recommend at least trying to understand their position: NATO should have long been disbanded, instead it's encroaching on Russia's borders; cold-war rhetorics long since obsolete are still in use by neo-cons and their puppets to form public opinion via mass media; NGOs and other "institutions" are financing color revolutions all over the world (e.g. USAID), in the name of "democracy" (i.e. privatize everything, enslave your people, follow our lead); I could go on, but to summarize, I'll just use your own words: "Politics isn't black and white."
Also, if everything you know about a region or culture comes from the media, you should be extra careful when jumping to conclusions. There's always multiple perspectives to a story, and you're only hearing one (orchestrated by the interests of a few powerful people who'd be glad to send you to your doom for a penny or two extra in their accounts). Instead of letting yourself be instrumentalized, better remember that these are all people like you and me, who didn't have the luck to be born into our consumerist society constantly striving for more markets to sell their crap to. And maybe it's ok if they don't agree with this world-view and defend their own.
that brings back the risks of instability.
At the same time they propose to route Azerbaijani gas through their country in an offer to diversify the EUs energy sources (and also buying themselves an insurance policy against military strikes), while high-profile western politicians suck up to the new Saudi King lauding reforms in the country with an unparalleled hypocrisy (e.g. in relation to human rights issues, etc.) just because it suits them.
Fuck politics and fear mongering war hawks.
Let Iran do whatever they want, they're a sovereign nation and should be able to do whatever they want as long as they're defending themselves, as opposed to the EUSA banking cartel(s), which should be restrained over their (its?) constant interference and meddling in the internal affairs of other countries.
Ah, feels good to vent...
Most of the stuff I "learned" in school were things I have never needed in the real world and the more worthless information you stuff into your head leaves less room for the stuff that is actually important.
Oh, how fun it was to be 16 and totally ignorant.
it's useless because it doesn't use a processor that hasn't even launched?
It's useless for me. What am I supposed to do with a friggin Iris? Fuck that, I want a real numbercruncher, even if I have to wait.
So, I'm not complaining, they've got a great lappy, just not quite what I imagined for myself, so I'll hold out.
I can't find the link, but there was something about TB2 not being connected directly to the CP lanes.
Ah, there it is:
Intel has never allowed motherboard vendors to hang the Thunderbolt silicon / add-in card off the CPU's PCIe lanes. [...] It would have been great to have a new version of Thunderbolt with PCIe 3.0 along with the X99 launch. But, we already know it is not going to be the case till Skylake launches.
From: http://www.anandtech.com/show/...
So that seems the single most important update we've had in years, IMHO.
Hopefully I'll be able to get myself something like a WS 60, but with proper TB support that will be able to run OS X. I.e. metal case, two drive bays, lots of RAM, TB2-3, USB 3(.1), and a quadra or the like.
I'm willing to accept binary blobs on my 'puter for such specs, since I have a Free router that does the network filtering anyway.
In any case, they got pretty close to what I want except for the TB and the GPU. I might get one of these for my wife in order to support them.
For God's sake, stop researching for a while and begin to think!
