Fair enough. Then science classes should always teach that science may not hold every answer to every thing.

We agree.

Correct, iff the preferred "fantasy" isn't the ticket to an "afterlife". Some bet one way; some bet the other.

I appreciate that you feel that way. However, I said "be banned from" (read: banned from discussion outside of theology class) and not "not be taught in".

Other modern translations: Ephesians: http://www.biblegateway.com/pa... Timothy: http://www.biblegateway.com/pa... The passage in Timothy is telling Christians to not complain, and to act in humility, even when they're being oppressed. The passage in Ephesians is saying the same thing. Here's the thing: Read 1 Peter 2:13: http://www.biblegateway.com/pa... which tells Christians to obey the law. In the old days, the law allowed for slaves; in the present day, it doesn't. The point is to always obey the law. As for Revelation: Many down-to-earth Christians believe it cannot be interpreted correctly in the present day. Some believe it is talking about the past; some believe it is a prophesy of things to take place in the future. No one who's emotionally healthy believes it's a literal book. Additionally, all that passage is implying is that (1) there is a creator, (2) he doesn't like those personality traits, (3) people with those traits are not going to be saved from [either the Earth's eventual destruction or "hell", I'm not quite clear on that].

Show me where those things are in the new testament.

It's not a scientific theory at all, and it's not saying you can't ask questions. Who says science even has the ability to have all the answers? Because, if science can't ever get us all the answers, then there's something else...

I agree that science can be (and sometimes is) elevated to the position of religion. But... If there's a maker, and he's vastly superior to mankind, he would likely possess the ability to keep himself from being observed, ever. (Also, how can a religious fantasy be insulted by itself? I got confused by that.)

Are you saying that anything not agreeing with your own personal philosophy should be banned from public schools? I say let them all be read.

...Is this girlintraining?

Good one. :)

Dictionary: http://www.merriam-webster.com... Science: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

Many evangelicals have mental health issues, sadly. It's one of the bigger problems with that group. I don't have enough information, after reading Genesis, to assert that it's a literal account of creation; therefore, I don't. The Bible we have now is certainly a human work. The most-reasonable Christians, in my opinion, say that the original manuscripts are inerrant and there may be some (plenty of?) mistranslations and misunderstandings in the versions we read today. And the new testament isn't pro-slavery, at all. I've never got that impression from reading it; however, I do feel that it emphasizes humility, whether or not you're being oppressed. I enjoyed this read: http://enrichmentjournal.ag.or...

And since that day, everyone spoke every word literally.

If you go back and read the thread, I was referring to his misunderstanding of Christ's teachings. I didn't make a reference to Genesis.

I do study QM and natural selection in my spare time. And Christianity. And I don't doubt QM, natural selection, or Christianity. Occam's Razor... it's the simplest solution that the universe was created.

Fair enough. Then science teachers should probably stop telling students that the Bible is fiction: http://www.opposingviews.com/i... and that they can't talk about it: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com...