Comment Re:DebianNoob (Score 1) 450
If RH never made another release, there would be similar disruption.
I doubt it. There is an OSS-based fork with many of the features RH clients actually use. Its called CentOS, and that alone is what drives the RH ecosystem. Very few customers actually *run* RH, and those who do usually do it for compliance and certfication issues (think about SAP and Oracle installs).
That doom theorycrafting is irrelevant to my question.
You made no question.
That's also irrelevant. They are distros from a business standpoint. CentOS being interchangeable with Fedora since forever. How they came to be is a footnote.
CentOS has a user base that is probably an order of magnitude bigger than RH. So proportionally, you're just agreeing with me. They are small fish.
My question was about relative usage and some way to measure that metric other than guesswork, as a challenge to the assertion that RH is "a marginal player". systemd adoption in RH is mentioned in 100% of the "discussions" on the topic. So someone here is showing bias.
RH is a company. There are already established metrics for that. Its a mix between revenue and net profit, usually. And as I've shown you, RH is a marginal player.
If you were going to address the issue in an objective manner, you might note Debian, tends to identify itself when you run fingerprinting on servers (e.g. Apache and Nginx). Debian tends to be the most common identifier! Nobody believes the bulk of the responses (with no OS identifiers) are all non-RH (some will be slack, some debian, some gentoo, whatever), so that's an interesting metric that isn't definitive.
No one cares about webservers, and I've never seen anybody buying linux (so, RH customers) to run Nginx. Webservers are a commodity, and can be run in whatever you want. There is nothing that makes debian or linux by itself more interesting than the rest. Many new-breed sysadmins are used to ubuntu, thats why they choose debian.
think I understood completely. Attempting to derail into some form of "RH can be replaced" discussion, is of no interest to me.
RH *can* be easily replaced. Its one of those companies that have no real added value in their stack, other than support. See the evolution of sales of RH and compare it to other players, and you'll easily find out that.
Calling RH a marginal player is simply disingenuous, as of today.
The numbers are there. Like it or don't - it is a marginal player.