Your attempts at being condescending make you look like a complete idiot. "There's hope for me yet" because I read the research that you said disproved me? (Which of course did not.) You sure showed me... I guess?
Spatial reasoning and spatial intelligence is more than just abstract reasoning about shapes you bellend. For instance: " visualization of objects from different angles" [Wikipedia] would obviously be extremely helpful in skeet shooting where you have to track and predict a moving object in space. Judging distances and angles and how they relate to where you point a gun is also a spatial problem. Marksmanship involves a lot more than "looking at things".
Science is about making measurements not sweeping generalisations.
Great, so all the measurements show that males have an advantage in spatial tasks. Glad we've cleared that up.
Do you even understand what phsyiology and nature versus nurture even are?
Obviously I do. Let me dumb it down for you. Males have a statistical advantage in spatial tasks. Some people (like you) want to assert that this is not a physiological difference. There is very little reason to assume that this is not a physiological difference. Worded another way: There is very little reason to assume it is nurture.
YOU made the claim that women are less suited, physiologically than men.
No, that is not what I said at all. Someone asserted that there was no physiological advantage men have in shooting sports. That is not an assertable fact. Men have a distinct advantage which is most likely caused, at least partially, by physiological differences. To claim that it is not physiological just cannot be done.
[*] And you still are apparently "dumbfounded" that I cannot understand how navigation skills and facial recognition (two of the small number of tasks in the skillset known as spatial intelligence) relate to shooting. Please will you enlighten the ignorant masses including me?
Holy strawman! Is this the quality of your thought-process? That is an absurdly moronic thing to write. Spatial skills can bring benefit to different areas. Do you not understand that? Kind of like how they can benefit abstract math skills as well as sports skills. "Well what does Trigonometry have to do with throwing a ball?! Herp derp." Is that what you were trying to get across?
The problem with the "burden of proof" thing is it seems to lead random people on the internet that the first personto say something requires the burden of proof whereas the person (you) making the opposite claim doesn't need it merely by virtue of being second. That is not so.
Well that's why I explained the burden of proof and it clearly had nothing to do with the order of claims. Men and women are physiologically different. The default assumption when there is a significant difference between men and women is therefore that it has to do with physiological differences. What do you disagree with here? Do you think that your alternative assumption should get a higher precedence? If so- why? Did you have a point or were you just trying to poison the well and make another strawman?
We are debating about physiology.
Well really we were talking about whether or not men had an advantage.
Except you're the one suggesting the more complex system (there's some physiological difference...
Except physiological differences are not the "more complex system". We know for a fact that there are physiological differences. The "more complex system" would be if it wasn't physiological differences.
The only claim I've made so far is that you arguments are crap and don't hold up to even the evidence you presented yourself.
Men have an advantage in spatial tasks. There is no evidence that disproves or even suggests that this is not physiological in nature. What exactly are you patting yourself on the back about here?
In fact I very carefully avoided making claims of my own because I hoped to lead you into this trap
Yes, I am perilously surrounded by strawmen. What a clever trap. Knob.
you have presented evidence which directly refutes your own point on physiology
No- I did not. You keep repeating this but it does not make it true. I provided a citation that says that men and women are different. There was a sentence that said it might not be physiological (which is evidence that the default assumption is that it is physiological). The linked study most certainly did not support making a statement that it is not physiological.
Here is exactly what I wrote:
I may be wrong but I am fairly certain males tend to perform better in spacial reasoning tasks as well as reaction times.
Well I was not wrong. Males do tend to perform better. So there is a difference and it is likely in no small part physiological. There is a good chance male physiology brings a benefit in shooting sports. And a definite fact that males do have a benefit in shooting sports. So saying that "Male physiology is no advantage whatsoever in shooting sports" just cannot be done.
There's hope for you yet!
I wish I could say the same about you but you seem extremely proud of setting up strawmen and saying incredibly stupid things.