Yeah, no. Unless Microsoft is going to.. say.. Dell, and saying we won't give you a discount on licenses if you install McAfee or Norton as opposed to MSE, this isn't the same thing at all. Go look up what *actually* happened before shooting off your mouth. It wasn't including IE or WMP that got Microsoft in hot water, its the other crap they did to make those dominant.

Okay. Have you ever noticed that when you put a new game in your 360 for the first time, the first thing it does is ask to download an update from MS? Even if you just got the game on launch day? What's happening here is that the kinect software initiates its own firmware upgrade to make sure things work. That's fine, but when you actually load up the game, it tries to contact Microsoft for a non existent update. Can anyone with an xbox tell me what happens if you decline an update? Yup. Booted off of live until you accept it. There's some kind of version mismatching going on here. Nothing quite so tacky as a failed antipiracy method.

Um... yes it is. Go look at any DMCA request form online (even YouTube's). You have to attest, under penalty of perjury, that you own or hold rights to the work that you're reporting as infringing. The only reason that Universal and the other MafiAA jagoffs can get away with this is because countersuing is long and expensive.

That's a load of sh*t and you know it. Why not put out the fire and then bill him for the $75? Having them show up but refuse to put water to flame is just plain mean on a level I don't quite have the words to describe. And they *did* have to show up - to make sure the neighbor's houses didn't burn down. I'd say the FD should be on the hook for the cost of the house, reckless endangerment, and cruelty to animals.

From someone close to the CEO, supposedly he went to a number of financial organizations and told them to ignore what was on the front page in the following days. Sounds like a sh*tty marketing stunt. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23418875&postcount=240

And that makes you a colossal douche. I, for one, don't care what my employees do in their off time.

That's only if you're using some last-gen archaic browser that actually executes random code without letting you decide what gets executed. I mean, seriously, it's like walking down a dark alley, picking up random hypos, and jabbing them into your veins. Firefox + Noscript + Adblock

No no no, you misunderstood. I meant MICROSOFT could have kept THE RESEARCHERS in the loop. If MS doesn't want to play nice with the security researchers, they really shouldn't be surprised when the researchers.. um... research security.