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Submission + - Android – Is it Free and Open? (tuxmaniac.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Aanjhan Ranganathan writes on whether Android is Free and Open Source. He argues "I really don’t see why Android is NOT Free Software by any definition. For starters, majority of Android source code is licensed under the Apache license v2.0 which is a Free Software Foundation approved GPL compatible license. The Linux kernel, over which Android is based is itself under GPL version 2." He then moves on to explain the differences between software and hardware openness.

Comment Re:Isn't there anything like sourceforge for andro (Score 2, Informative) 116

I'm not aware of a repository but there are three lists of Android free software apps that I know of.

Le Wiki Koumbit: https://wiki.koumbit.net/AndroidFreeSoftware

The Replicant for Android list: http://trac.osuosl.org/trac/replicant/wiki/ListOfKnownFreeSoftwareApps

The Wikiperdia list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Open_Source_Android_Applications

Comment The problem is convenience (Score 2) 393

Of course, RMS has a point here. And this is not the first time he is arguing against cloud computing. As can be seen in his recorded talks he has been doing this for quite some time now. The problem is that cloud computing has a couple of advantages which makes it attractive. You don't need to have backups of your data and you can access your data everywhere given that you have an internet connection. So this is very convenient for the user. But then you are giving up some of your freedoms for convenience which is not really a good thing.

Comment Re:meego is much more interesting (Score 1) 336

Again, that is a deficiency of the hardware and of phone manufacturers / carriers changes to Android and not a deficiency of Android itself. Android is in fact so open that it allows manufacturers to do these nasty things that to Android. It should be the people buying the right Android devices to vote with their wallets for the phones that do not impose those restrictions on the users. You did not even have to install an app to root the Google Nexus One for instance.

Comment Re:meego is much more interesting (Score 1) 336

Well, MeeGo goes a step beyond and you can actually contribute code to it, you can see it being developed in open. In the end, It's all relative: iOS is less open than Android and Android is less open than MeeGo.

To call Android less open than MeeGo is rubbish. Software is as open as it can get when it is FOSS. Android is licensed under the Apache license and the GPL. So, by definition Android is totally FOSS. There is nothing that could be more FOSS than something that is already FOSS.

The fact that Google develops Android behind closed doors is a different matter and doesn't make the released software less open. You can take the current Android release, fork it and contribute code to it just as it was the case for Cyanogen mod and a dozen other mods. That the main developer of the project (Google) works in privacy doesn't change the openness of the software project.

Comment Re:meego is much more interesting (Score 4, Insightful) 336

You must be trolling. It's not Android that is locked down. It's the phone manufacturers that abuse the openness of Android to lock their phones down. Granted, there are proprietary drivers on every Android phone at the bottom and there are proprietary apps at the top (which can be removed from rooted phones). Moreover, Android itself is developed by Google behind closed doors. But still Android itself is open. That is the reason why forks of Android like the Cyanogen mod can emerge. And this is something that did not even happen with Maemo. On its internet tablets Nokia used mostly FOSS but kept enough closed so that it did not loose control over the platform. For instance 1/3 of the software on the Nokia 770 was actually proprietary. There was even a project called Mamona that tried to replace the closed source components with open source ones and it never reached a stage were it could be called usable. I would say Android has a lot of potential.

Comment Re:Orwell (Score 2, Interesting) 343

Perhaps Big Brother is precisely what we, as a civilization, need in order to realize that it's a horrible thing to live like that. After all, experience is a good teacher.

The problem is, once we have it in place it is very hard to get rid of it. When the government watches your every step you cannot form a successful resistance. Even today it is prohibited to assemble a great crowd without letting the police force know about it (at least in Germany).

Comment Re:Is there any full-fat linux available? (Score 3, Interesting) 193

The only Ubuntu/Nexus installations I can find are running in a chroot, like the Debian that grandparent mentions. Win95 wouldn't run natively anyway.

There is a tutorial at http://www.irregular-expression.com/ for installing Debian on a Nexus One that runs directly on the hardware, no chroot. The only catch is that you need a PC hooked up to the device in order to initiate booting. So the only thing that is missing to be usable in the field is a bootloader that is able to boot an alternative OS. Or you could try to keep the device running without rebooting, but I guess that Debian without chroot is a bit too power hungry for that.

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