Corporations are a creation of the state. You cannot separate the two.

And now, you begin to understand the problem with corporations and campaign laws.

Assumption of guilt. Good one!

First off, the whole $10,000 thing is just an arbitrary number, that is easily bypassed. It solves nothing, prevents nothing. It just makes it harder to do legitimate business under the watchful eye of government. Suggesting that it prevents unlawful acts is unproven at best, and woefully naive at worst.

The assumption being, that if I had $10K in cash, I must be a criminal is also insulting.

The number $10,000 used to be a huge sum of money, like the average yearly wage for middle class worker. It isn't any longer, and yet that number remains. Imagine if it hasn't changed in the next 100 years, where it is a daily wage equivalent and see if you still agree that only criminals have that kind of money.

Suffice it to say, your basic premise is wrong, short sighted and just plain ignorant of reality.

It came from private debts. Just like the note claims ... "all debts, public and private"

ALL is a qualifier, and negates any limitations, including documentation of origin.

The notion that cash is available for " "all debts, public and private."" without government oversight is naive at best.

Here is a test, go buy a brand new car with CASH money and that you want the MSO (google it if you want to know what it is). Technically it should be possible, without any government interference. But it isn't.

Here is another test, pay your taxes with coins (real coins) see if the government that issued the money will take the money it issued. Again, good luck.

it was a partially sarcastic point I was making.

And it isn't racist, it is tribal. Irish, Italians, Germans ... all experienced tribal resentments, but since it was English vs Irish, nobody gave a shit.

I am not threatened by false accusations. The most racist people I know are the ones crying "racism" everywhere.

By racist, I mean those that are crying for score adjustments on SATs for black students who score less than white/Asian people (on average). Basically they are saying that black students are LESS CAPABLE of getting good scores, and thus are inferior to white/Asian students.

This is appalling racism. It is insulting.

Or when Jesse Jackson says that "thugs" is racist term, when describing Michael Brown pushing a store owner around. Michael Brown was a thug, it has nothing to do with race ... UNLESS you're saying that pushing people around is a race based characteristic. Again, what Jesse Jackson said, while appearing to be legitimate was basically establishing that blacks are incapable of acting civilized and thus using terms like "thuggish behavior" to describe thuggish behavior is racially insensitive.

Real racism says that blacks can't help themselves, and need government to help them. It is pretty fucking sickening to me.

Selective memories of how Governments really screw up.

USSR
China
North Korea
Cambodia
Germany (Nazi kind)

These governments killed hundreds of millions of people. You're just lucky you don't live in a place with oppressive government and thus confirmation biased towards government.

The problem isn't what you think it is. Good People doing nothing allows evil to prosper. Be it Somalia or Nazi Germany.

The drop in value makes it more worthwhile to shed them now, rather than waiting for values to pop back up to where they were once. The ONLY thing that will add value to bitcoin isn't as an investment tool (hence the speculation bubble), but rather when they become common in daily transactions.

But that is the steep incline that we face, especially in light of all the scandals in the bitcoin trading world.

AC child, please stop making yourself look like a fool.

I realize that in your circles using terms like "buttcoin" is effective, but around adults it just looks juvenile. Grow up.

Actually, I am a Libertarian and you won't find me making those whines. The only people I hear actually whining are those that didn't do their due diligence and put all their eggs in one insecure basket. The ones whining are those that are now calling for government interference where none is really needed, and people like yourself who don't understand libertarian principles and yet feel entitled to mock them.

Trust me, you look like a fool to libertarians like me.

In a free society, one where government has no rights to invade privacy and personal lives of the people, using money is not a crime. The fact that the coins are nearly untraceable is the desired effect, similar to actual cash money. Yes, the side effect is one where people buy illegal contraband (oxymoronic in a free society) using nearly untraceable currency. But the same could be said for CASH, which has nearly all the same risks in a free society.

However, if you want to give up your rights to avoid some messy possibilities, you're going to find that you're not really avoiding anything, and having given up your rights ... are worse off.

Blacks ignoring whites is not racist.

Orientals ignoring whites is not racist.

Arabs ignoring whites is not racist.

Indians ignoring whites is not racist.

Whites ignoring anyone else is racist. Whites are guilty by default. End of story.

Or Google Hangouts works just as well, with a VOIP call in phone, using said Polycom VOIP models.

Or ...

Yeah, this is a solved problem. Someone needs to turn in their geek card.

So releasing secure documents to someone outside of government is not "illegal"?

You really believe that?