Just buy the smart phone separately. Buy it off the internet. Then buy a sim card from one of the many cellphone plan retailers. Match a to b and you're good.

We could have found a better project for our space industry. The ISS was a make work project... in space.

It was a huge waste of resources and the supposed diplomatic gains from the expense clearly were an illusion.

For the same money we spent on the ISS we could have put a base on the moon. I'm not saying we should have put a base on the moon... just saying we could have done that for the same money.

Wind the ISS down. Sell it if anyone wants to buy it. And then take the money NASA now has open in their budget to do something worthwhile.

Exactly... if the stupid regulators shut down the production of this stuff then I'm done with them.

Not my point. We were talking about where people wanted to live once they had choices. Your argument is that they have no choice so its good that they live in the city which is a circular argument.

Please be logical.

you could say the same thing about the gaming laptop.

One of my old laptops is currently plugged into the big screen tv. It acts as a video file server for my entertainment system. I have a remote that works with it and everything. I just click the tv over to the input the laptop is plugged into... and then pick up the remote that works with the laptop and tell it to play.

I have lots of old machines that serve as file servers, web servers, etc etc etc.

That doesn't change the fact that at ONE time they were each desirable as a machine you'd actually like to use. This little machine they're trying to sell is too expensive, too unreliable, and too under powered.

Its got nothing to redeem it.

Well that's nonsense because how do they know if you're PCI complaint or not? Are they going to examine your database? They don't.

So all that means is that when a breach happens, if you're not complaint, they're not responsible. It doesn't mean anything else.

Furthermore, I've seen a lot of businesses that process credit cards that store everything on their systems forever.

So... no.

If they are that expensive the system these people are selling is very over priced because you can get a significantly more powerful laptop for that price. Which means you're getting a screen, a keyboard, a battery, etc... and other components are of a higher quality... and you're paying nothing more for it.

My point remains... this little machine is a bad buy.

exactly how do they charge the card then?

The legal requirements are generally pretty lax, bro. The president of the United States for example just needs to be a natural born American over the age of 35. So... You're going to give everyone an equal amount of money decides they want to run for president and meets those qualifications?

You do realize you'll be giving the candidates something like "a" dollar if you split the money that many ways right? And the election will of course be an absolute circus.

Here's the other thing, elections are held at the state level. Not the federal level. If you're running for president, one of the things you have to do is get EACH state to put your name on the ballot. To do that, you often need to get X number of people in that state to sign a petition to put you on the ballot. This is one of the things the national parties organize. Anyone they nominate gets a giant pile of signatures.

I'm not saying this money issue is a deal breaker. what I am saying is that it is complicated.

They might as well announce they're getting Yettie insurance. They had their payment system compromised by people that got access to their point of sale system at one of their stores and then used that to gain access to their central system.

That has nothing to do with chip and pin.

And ultimately, how would you do chip and pin for online retail? You know, people that literally have to type their credit card number into a field? So indifferent to chip and pin, that is going to keep working. And I suspect that indifferent to chip and pin, somewhere in the target billing system there will be a list of credit card numbers, expiration dates, and security codes. A hacker gaining access to that database isn't going to care if the cards were chip and pin or not. Because by that point the data is prepared for processing. The only way chip and pin would be effective is if the security code were different for each transaction. That seems extremely unlikely but if you could some how pull that off then snagging the numbers might not get the thieves anything. Of course, how you'd get that to work with online retail is anyone's guess.

TLDR... I don't think chip and pin is going to accomplish anything and in so far as I understand the issue it wouldn't have stopped the breach at target in the first place. So i don't know why they're talking about it like its a solution to anything.

For an expert you're pretty bad at reading studies.

Lets dispense with that little fib... you're obviously not an expert or if you are... the title is obviously meaningless for this discussion. Even if you do legitimately hold such a title it isn't respectable under challenge.

As to the studies, there were a lot of qualifies and conditions on each. You can see how they were controlling for various variables. If you were at all curious on the subject you'd have looked into them a bit more and come out with more detailed insights.

You didn't though... you skimmed and looked for something to justify your position. Which is fine... it just isn't something experts do...

Anyway, until you actually read the studies as I did... there's no point in going further. And since you've clearly been lying and playing passive aggressive games from the first post I feel little obligation to keep humoring you.

When people get on in years and gain financial independence... do they move to the city or the country?

I rest my case.

If the investment houses that do HFT didn't get an advantage by doing it then they wouldn't do it.

They clearly do it so they're getting an advantage.

Is this not plainly obvious to even a child?

yes yes... than then... sigh.