I don't think he had Internet access in 1987. That came a bit later, I believe. Certainly not on the Microvax. Andy didn't charge for access to the machine when it was a BBS which probably saved his butt.
Lots of time spent in Vax Multi-User Moria and VMS Phone.
I believe Daver was 12 or something when he wrote the full-screen editor for the BBS.
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>Yup. On a VAX stolen from Brown & Sharpe.
I saw that Microvax in Andy's basement. "Hey Andy, where'd ya get the Vax?" "We don't talk about that."
"...Ok..." >proceed to turn up Pink Floyd's DSOTM.
After he returned it, he got an ancient 780 and I believe 2 (or 3?) washing machine sized disks.
slightly related tangent -
Ferguson Perforating got rid of their Microvax II one day and I found out that it went to the landfill, because the guy they gave it to couldn't operate the damn thing "and it was old." I was catatonic with disappointment. "DO YOU THROW AWAY A MICROMETER BECAUSE IT'S NOT ELECTRONIC?!" I yelled.
It was 1993/4. Still the heyday of the BBS networks. I could have created a beast of a multiline setup bigger than Andy's. *grumble grumble*
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Hacking is supposed to be good stuff here, right? Or did something change?
Yes, something changed.
An Internet media "giant" bought Slashdot. Thus the "media" definition of hack, not ours. Jerks.
Our definition of hack would relate more to hot-rodding instead of this system-smashing claptrap.
>vw beetle
I agree.
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>My first taxi ride from Boston Logan to MIT
>taxi
Wut.
Logan -> Blue line -> Orange or Green Line -> Red line -> Kendall/MIT
How hard is that?
>3 years
Oh man...
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The meters on traditional cabs may sometimes be tinkered with, but that's illegal
Like that stops anyone.
I knew it took 11 bux to get me home after a night of being out, no matter what cab I took from Downtown Providence.
Enter the guy with license plate #1 on his taxi. Someone who I had ridden with for years and thought was straight. Suddenly instead of 11 dollars, it was 15. "I'm paying you today, but don't expect to ever see me in your cab again."
He drove around for a few years after that still jacking his meter until the city finally had enough of his antics. Lawd knows how many people he screwed over.
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This is the principle of false equivalency - treating propaganda, vapid opinions, and just plain falsities with the same weight as facts, in the aim of being "fair and balanced." Letting the CIA, NSA, others speak at conferences where they are there to spread their own propaganda and to then treat these presentations as valuable facts is intellectually dishonest at best.
There is a time when various people need to be shunned to give them a wake-up-call, and not allowing these jerks to take time at our conferences.
The CIA fucking spied on the fucking Congress and made up "evidence" to turn over to Eric Holder to prosecute congressional staffers. Because they didn't like the investigation into plainly illegal torture.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08...
These people need to be shunned and locked out, not catered to. Many need to be in jail at the very least.
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And here's the teenager with no life experience whatsoever.
Do you have any idea how long it takes to rebuild just a power substation? Do you have any idea how few EEs, techs, riggers, and laborers we have to rebuild them en masse?
You don't. That much is plain.
backup generators
What fucking backup generators? They don't exist.
Call up National Grid. Ask them how many "backup generators" they have for a Carrington Event situation. The laughter should be loud.
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The concept that "the population would correct itself" is a pretty fucking bad euphemism for widespread famine.
You don't know anything about modern agriculture that feeds 7+ billion people.
Crikes, you're dumb.
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Really? This would be devastating? We can't live without electricity, electronics, water pumps?
Can you farm without electricity? Gasoline? Do you have all the pre-electricity farm equipment that would allow you to grow food without a tractor, power tools, etc? Does your well pump even work without electricity? I'll bet it doesn't. I'll bet you can't really live off the grid unless you're Amish or Mennonite. You simply don't have the pre-industrial technology to get along in such a world.
Many in cities and suburbs, after 3 or 4 weeks, would wind up going out into the country to forage if they could find gasoline to pump (and gas pumps work with electricity!), because the supermarkets would be empty and all the food in the refrigerators/freezers would have spoiled after only a few days.
To your "off the grid" house. Probably.
inb4 "I have an arsenal of arms to keep them away"
Your best defense and survival depends on your neighbors. Because one lone person with a stash of food and arms can be out-sieged by the outside world.
I would suggest watching "The Trigger Effect," Episode 1 of James Burke's "Connections" series. Anyone (sensible) who watches that and looks around at the technology that supports all of us will come away with the conclusion that if it seriously went away for a month, we'd be fucked. The shit would so seriously hit the fan that your incredulousness indicates you are either completely out of touch with society at large, deliberately myopic, or some teenager that hasn't lived life enough to have any kind of broad view. Good luck with that.
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There's no shortage of people who are literally insane in politics.
Indeed. 1 out of 4 people has a diagnosable mental illness.
An estimated 26.2 percent of Americans ages 18 and older â" about one in four adults â" suffer from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year. When applied to the 2004 U.S. Census residential population estimate for ages 18 and older, this figure translates to 57.7 million people.
--NIMH
Consider what happens if the "Caliphate" gets their hands on some samples.
You mean the theocrats that are always talking about bringing the US back to its "christian" roots?
spit
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It's dumb to trust any technology 100 percent.
This was discussed here earlier after a poll showing that people with low knowledge of the Internet don't trust it, implying by omission that those that have more trust the Internet more, which is far from the case. The people with the most knowledge know what the flaws are.
Blind trust in any kind of technology is dumb.
Blind distrust of anything is also just as dumb.
Distrust of TOR because it was a US Navy project is practicing a type of ad-hominem. I'd rather distrust it based on either reading the code or the opinions and arguments of people better able than me at reading its code.
I've said it before about other things - there are plenty of reasons to dislike something without having to invent them. I use this when discussing GMO, because the "frankenfood" argument is specious - the real problem is the IP angle, for example.
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Carnegie Mellon is suppressing de-anonymising TOR discussion at Black Hat.
Talk on cracking Internet anonymity service Tor withdrawn from conference
By Joseph Menn
SAN FRANCISCO, July 21 Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:05pm EDT
Technology
(Reuters) - A heavily anticipated talk on how to identify users of the Tor Internet privacy service has been withdrawn from the upcoming Black Hat security conference.
A Black Hat spokeswoman told Reuters that the talk had been canceled at the request of lawyers for Carnegie-Mellon University, where the speakers work as researchers. A CMU spokesman had no immediate comment. (Reporting by Joseph Menn; Editing by Chris Reese)
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My guess is that someone wants the hole (if there is one) kept open a while longer or the suspicion that TOR is somehow ineffective alive. Let your mind run wild with speculation.
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"The population census has got him down as "dormanted". The Central Collective Storehouse computer has got him down as "deleted". [â¦] Information Retrieval has got him down as "inoperative". And thereâ(TM)s another one - security has got him down as "excised". Administration has got him down as "completed". ⦠Heâ(TM)s dead."
Brazil (1985)
this sounds great on paper,
No, it's not "on paper" and you seem to not know that Jack Conte (half of the duo Pomplamoose) is the CEO of Patreon. Patreon is the child of the experiences that Nataly Dawn and Jack Conte had with Youtube, and my posting of the interview on the BIRN and Nataly's closing of the other video was meant to be informative.
If you bothered to watch them. Which you didn't.
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Way to misquote me. I never said that such shops were "only for hipsters".
What a disingenuous complaint.
>mention a whole list of things such as lomography
>claim you're not talking about hipsters.
Yeah, whatever, man.
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2.4 statute miles of surgical tubing at Yale U. = 1 I.V.League
