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Comment Re:iPad is a luxury? (Score 1) 307

How come an iPad is a luxury, but a $700 smart phone isn't?

I make perfectly fine phone calls on my old RAZR 3

It is to some degree, but it does a lot more than your RAZR and I think we're at the point where it is just being intentionally stupid to still consider a modern phone to be nothing more than a device to make phone calls.

The point here is that if you have say an iPhone then an iPad isn't really going to get you anything you couldn't do on your phone aside from it being perhaps a little more convenient to do it on a larger screen.

Comment Re:The solution is obvious (Score 1) 579

Right, but if every phone was upgraded to the version it is technically able to be upgraded to by the hardware vendors, then I doubt there would be very many phones still running android 4.3 (that people were still using).

Well that's a pretty key point, is there any evidence to support that? Also it isn't just 4.3, this vulnerability is anything prior to 4.4.

I suppose this is true of PCs and windows updates as well, but there is enough consumer demand that Microsoft continues to release patches

Like I said, if it doesn't say "hey, here's an update" they won't care, Windows does that, Android does not. Android's approach to updates is a new operating system version rather than a patch.

Comment Re:Wow so negative here (Score 1) 214

Search is a great feature! Having a mouse and clicking around a GUI browsing for files was the most gimmicky, mouth-breather way of launching programs that added nothing for users. If you want something then just type it, it's faster than hunting through and clicking ever-expanding menus trying to reveal what you're looking for. Not only that but I don't need to rely on different operating systems having all the items in the same place, for example if I need mouse settings I just search for it and whether it's Windows 7, Windows 8 or OS X it gives me all the mouse-related items. I can do it with programs too so I don't need to worry that somebody may have organized their programs or files differently to me if I use their computer.

This also works on phones, I know where I put Safari on my iPhone but I don't know where it is on somebody elses so instead of hunting for it the more efficient way is to search. I could just browse for it but search is quicker.

Power users can go further than search and do things like scripts that copy lnk files from the start menu folder (yes it is what drives the start screen in Windows 8 too) to a directory that you add to your PATH variable so you can just launch any applications directly from the command line without having to remember where they are. This is great for when you have to work on a different system where things aren't where you expect them to be.

You can still put things in sensibly named and organised layouts if you prefer, and you can create shortcuts to things you need and place them in the most appropriate locations. I'm not sure where you get the idea that you cannot do that anymore.

Comment Re:Not that great of a preview (Score 1) 214

I don't wish to be "stuck" with Win10 as it's going subscription after a year free.

Where did you get that information from? I saw they are going to charge for it after the first year and that they will obviously charge OEMs for it so they can make money but I didn't see anything about "subscription".

Comment Re:The solution is obvious (Score 1) 579

How long should they realistically keep doing this? I know it is common to support some hardware for decades, but people just don't keep cell phones that long.

Well if you look at the usage of versions prior to 4.4 it is most of the Android userbase. I don't think there's a hard and fast rule on how long but given that most people are still using earlier versions I think it's pretty clear there needs to be some support.

Continually patching older releases may provide some short term good (if the hardware vendors are even willing to push those patches), but it also allows hardware vendors a convenient way to skirt their responsibility to port newer android versions to their phones.

Well really this is a special case anyway, the problem has been mostly resolved in recent Android versions where this is all moved into the Google Play app/services so Google can update these things directly. Webview specifically has been moved there in later versions.

Maybe this would work. But I still think a consumer demand based approach could work just as well or even better.

I doubt it, most people would have no idea about vulnerabilities such as this or that there is a new version of Android for their phones. If it doesn't say "hey, here's an update" most people don't know or care.

Comment Re:The solution is obvious (Score 1) 579

That fact does remain, but what I am arguing is that the real problem is the hardware vendors not google.

That's a fair position to take but in my opinion Google should see the situation and adapt to it by patching the older version especially since many of those phones do lack the capability to run 4.4 (though some may be able to skip 4.4 and run 5.0).

Until the hardware vendors change their ways, I think the most reasonable advice is "Don't buy phones with locked bootloaders, and preferably buy nexus phones from the google play store".

Even an unlocked bootloader isn't going to help you if you don't have a compatible system image, the binary drivers of one version don't necessarily work with the next because of the instability of the kernel ABI.

What Google should do is force a support requirement through the OHA.

Comment Re:First Sale (Score 1) 468

Yes, the "no, you tell me" answer. It's not a phonorecord, but the ECU of my car is copyrighted. Am I allowed to transfer the license to my ECU (and the car along with it)?

I'm not sure why you said "car" up until this point when you are specifically referring to the ECU component of a car that has one, which of course not all cars do. Were you trying to be intentionally misleading? ECUs can be replaced irrespective of the First Sale doctrine because that copyright is not tied to the car but to the ECU.

But that is irrelevant anyway, unlike the case of Ubisoft revoking keys for games no ECU has a requirement that ties it to an owner but if it did then it would still satisfy the First Sale doctrine because it is not about being able to use the goods after they were sold but to be able to sell the copyrighted goods in the first place.

So I still don't see how you're relating an ECU to re selling insurance policies, or to Ubisoft game keys for that matter.

Comment Re:First Sale (Score 1) 468

Then how does the Right of First Sale have nothing to do with my car, when it applies to my car?

We're talking about the First Sale Doctrine, it doesn't apply to your car.

Seems the only one here that doesn't know what it is is you.

No, it is definitely you. So please explain to me what you think the First Sale Doctrine is.

Comment Re:Open source code is open for everyone (Score 1) 211

When a FOSS hole is found... it is a hole... but not yet being exploited.

Where do you get the idea that when a FOSS hole is found nobody is exploiting it? How do you even know when one is found? You wait for somebody to tell you about it and assume that nothing is ever found by anybody until then?

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