Not sure how "announcement of website to allow people to walk away" leads into refusal. Oh, it must be seamless? Are you an engineer? Do you realize the complexity of decoupling two things? If you mix salt and sugar into a bowl, are you then evil when you say you can't divide them?

Please explain how iPhone corporate is supposed to know when you drop a SIM into another phone? Or are you supposed to call Apple if you move SIMs now? Which will lead to people complaining about how Apple is being a speedbump into moving SIMs from one phone to another.

This is more complex than people think. Apple doesn't do itself favors sometimes when it hides complexity. This is one such time. People think there's some Illuminati thing going on, when complexity is just hard.

Jokes aside, but I've been doing HTTP/web stuff since 1994 or so, I'm very familiar with telnet hostname 80 :) I've even sent HTTP .9 requests for a production server.

Anyone have NCSA Mosaic for a Commodore 64?

Thanks Apple for SMS service hijacking!

I think Occam's razor applies here. You can either read it as "EVIL APPLE, take over SMS to screw people OVER!!!!!" or you can read it as "Apple tried to make imessage a seamless extension on SMS, and got them a little too intermixed". I kind of see it more as the latter. Witness this with the issue with SMS/google account intermixing in Google Hangouts.

No one cared when Romney rolled out Romneycare in his own state.

Even better than that.

Originally, the idea of the ACA it came from the hyper conservative Heritage Foundation. It follows conservative values, in that people are responsible for providing somewhat for their own heath care, instead of dumping it on the ER. Once Obama rolled it out, the Heritage Foundation railed against their own plan, calling it unAmerican.

Romney enacted a version of the ACA, and thought it was one of the cornerstones of his governorship - many feel that the bill that is on his desk in his official governor's portrait was ACA/Obamacare/Romneycare. Yet he ran against it when Obama came out with his version. I kind of wish that Obama had called on Romney to defend ACA in front of the Supreme Court. At the time, Romney was the executive with the most success with the ACA, it would have been funny to see if he stuck to his guns or talked about how horrible his own plan was.

I read that Mississippi, long a horrible state when it came to people's health, liked the ACA/Romneycare. In 2007, they tried to get ahead of the curve and enact their own state insurance exchanges. A couple years later, when it became an Obama initiative they crushed it, both losing the money spent, and money possibly coming from the feds. Anything to not have a Democratic Party victory/Obama victory.

I had heard this too, in a Probate Case. It really works well when you have things of asymmetrical value. Dividing money is easy. Figuring out the relative worth of baseball cards to a rug wasn't so much in the Probate case.

Because it was put to sleep by "The Phantom Menace"

-- Stephen Colbert

One of the most f**ked countries is Liberia. Founded by the US, the capitol is Monrovia, as in James Monroe, 'Merican President. It's been screwed for a while, partially because of western intervention. They are paying, in money and in lives. They don't have the capital to support a huge antiviral campaign in the scale that is needed in the time scale that is needed.

The US is not the sole reason for Liberia being f**ked. It's not even the main reason. But it is part, and since we do have a partial responsibility, we should have a partial responsibility to help their current crisis. We're not (yet) paying in lives in the scale that Liberia is, but we can pay in capital.

True. And the Titanic wasn't a navigation fault - too fast for conditions, bad design, and substandard steel plates. Hubris trumps tech most of the time.

Im going to respond to this, and then drop myself from this thread. We can have our own flame war elsewhere. I think we both see the world so differently that we're not going to convince each other of much, and we'll bore the slashdot readers that are not us.

You say you don't want quotas and then you talk about what is and is not a good mix.

Not a contradiction. We're arguing different semantics here. Quota, as usually used in diversity, is a required number, a required percentage. We both agree that a required number is bad. I argue that you still must have metrics. Just as anything at your work, you need to see current status and are to be able to make adjustments. You differ on this part, which is fine, but I have no contradiction. if you want to argue that the definition of "quota" is does not, as commonly used, have a requirement, it's just a percentage measurement, then fine, but my argument is the same, with different words.

I am not my race or my sex.

You are not SOLELY your race or gender. I agree with that. But part of your personality is defined by that. Not 100%, and the percentage differs from individual to individual. But it does define a part of you. Your personality is based on those experiences you find so marvelous in yourself. Those experiences have as part other people in them. In this world, how people act towards you is defined by your race and gender. This is baked into humans, as we see chimps make clans and war and all that. We too make clans, sometimes based on race and gender. To argue otherwise, i feel, is a bit naive. A big part of how the world acts towards you is race and gender. A big part of your personality is therefore based on race and gender. Not all, but a chunk.

If you have a room full of people who have a myriad of qualities but all have the same "white male" qualities, then there is a huge part missing, because no one will have the parts that are black, or female. There's a hole there. You may not think the hole is important, that's fine. but others do. And you're arguing that hole doesn't exist, which i think is an error.

If you filled a room with white guys you are very unlikely to have even ONE guy like me.

As said before in both my grandparent post, and above, this is both true and irrelevant. You will have some common white male characteristics, to a varying degree with each man there, but none will have the black or Asian or female characteristics. We are trying to capture those missing experiences. That you have additional very cool features is good for some level of diversity, but not the types of experiences we're talking about.

I am no more my race then I am my height.

Ask a little person if height doesn't affect things. hard to drive a car, hard to shop, people act differently towards you. How people act towards you affects your personality. Ask a guy 6'8" on how to design airline seats. Your experiences help you design a world that fit more of us than one with just guys of normal height.

Race and gender are moronic ways to classify people.

True, but it's what humans do. If you want to solve real world problems you have to consider what humans actually do in this world, which means the moronic reaction to race and gender. In the US (which I'm assuming you're from for some reason) race is also tied tightly to socioeconomic stratum.

Race is totally meaningless

Tell that to Trayvon Martin's parents. Or the people of Ferguson Missouri. See above for what I believe should happen (race is meaningless) vs what has happened (Rodney King, poll tax, etc).

I've Bloviated way too long and beginning to wear out my welcome. Please read Bomb the Suburbs by William "Upski" Wimsatt if you can. It's about a white boy who at one point thought pretty much as you did, but then realizing that being a white guy gave him a tailwind that helped him over the years.

This obessession with sex and race quotas are counter productive if your goal is better work. If you want greater diversity then look for a diversity of talent, mentality, and psychology.

The quota thing is (or should be) a red herring when it comes to things like this.

You don't force absolute numbers, by quotas. In the world this should be, you measure what your mix currently is, and if it's not a good mix, you work to better that mix. You have an engineering firm, and you don't see enough women. Do you have a minimum quota for women? No, you sponsor engineering events for women. You have a mentorship program for girls in school. You buy a bunch of Lego Mindstorms kits and have a Robot-off at your daughter's school. You work. You grind. You realize that you need to till the soil a bit to get the benefits that you've been enjoying.

The trick with diversity is, it feeds on itself. if you work at it now, long term it will kind of work itself out. Daughters see their mom working as engineers. Black kids see their dads work as programmers. Down the road you see the numbers hit the target without you doing anything at all.

Sadly the idea that a corporation might do something to help the world and not focus solely on next months' balance sheet seems to be an anathema now.

But quotas are easier, so people just do quotas. People who want true diversity rail against quotas. They help, but they do harm as well. Someone in a position over their head doesn't do as much pulling in new people. Part of the cycle is network. Anne brings in Brenda, brings in Cathy. If Anne sucks, she's not going to be able to pull in Brenda. You want Anne to be good, so you get that good cycle going where it just works itself out.

And as a white guy myself, I think you're getting it wrong on diversity. I can say I'm 1 in 1,000,000 myself (we can have a unique-off later). But how unique you are is irrelevant. It means that your ONE set of viewpoints is unique. Diversity is having multiple sets of viewpoints, each unique, each with some validity. After the Trayvon Martin incident, people were talking about smartphone apps for black teenagers. One was a GPS map of gang territory so they wouldn't get shot walking home. Another was an app, like a deadman's switch, to contact friends in case of being shot or arrested. Do you, as a unique white man, have that experience to need and write those apps? Does your team of 5 white guys have the ability to write the GPS gang territory app? My guess is you've never though of it. You've been lucky, you never had to worry about it. But my sister has a bullet in her back from a gang drive by, A GPS app of gang territory with warnings about gang colors may have helped her way back then, though she doesn't even have a smartphone now.

I think white guys (such as me) can't really talk about how cool they are. It's like a drunk guy trying to detect if you can drive. Always remember that the even if you think you're good and can walk straight, your idea of "straight" is coming from an intoxicated perspective.

(Yeah, I know this was focusing on gender diversity, but I see a larger issue)

Back when I was in college, oh too long ago, we had actually a decent amount of diversity in classes, at least relative to what I see today.

I got my job from a reference from a Mexican engineer. My group of close friends were a white guy like me, a few Indians, Mexicans, a Greek girl, some Greek guys, a Korean girl, etc. It seemed pretty mixed at the time. Also, not coincidentally I think, I got a free ride to college. My tuition was low (state school) and I got a lot of grants and scholarships.

Now, college is getting more expensive. They're spending money not on faculty or programs, but on buildings, and incurring debt. Tuition is rising. Scholarships are gone, too much belt tightening. So, if you're close to the cutoff of "can I make it in, can I not", you're more likely to be on the bad side of that cutoff now. Oh, and who's more likely to be on the bad side of the cutoff? Minorities.

This isn't racism in the classic "Im going to stop you from reading a book" sense. But it is a consequence of previous racism. You get cycles. Parents who were banned from colleges in the 60's, who were forced to live in neighborhoods with bad schools in the 80's and 90's are having kids saddled with a few headwinds today. It took years to create this situation, and it will take years to unwind it.

This isn't just a "well, poor them", "yeah the bleeding heart liberals will cry them a river" problem. Aside from the emotional cost, for the spreadsheet lovers, this is a huge subset of our nation not being as economically useful as they can be. This specifically in a time where our economy is depressed because people don't have good paying jobs and can't buy anything. To have cycles and generations of people who are nowhere near their economic potential should be a problem for both Dems and Republicans.

Sadly, there doesn't seem to be anybody who wants to do a long term improvement project in today's politics. Neither politicians, nor the electorate have enough patience to try to unwind this.

Obamacare is Romneycare is a system created by the conservative Heritage Foundation.

I just read an interesting article on how Mississippi tried to be ahead of the curve, create a Romneycare style insurance exchange way back in 2007, but when it became an Obama led initiative, they let politics come in and forced it to crash and burn, with huge amounts of collateral damage in unhealthy citizens and both lost and wasted money.

I know it's sometimes too easy to input racism in certain situations, but when it was espoused by a white think tank and rolled out by a white governor, it's OK. A black President says so, and now it's evil. The fact it hurts poor black folk more than it hurts poor white folk may or may not be intentional, but it is OK.

To answer my own questing, my best guess is Data.

Ever notice how sometimes they ask you what your zip code is AFTER your transaction goes through? What's the likelihood that your name (as read from your credit card, Track 1) is near unique in your area code (I think I'm unique in my state). So they can associate your purchases with you, those points cards notwithstanding. If Google Wallet uses a single credit card, then they can do much the same thing, just lose the name info but can still profile you.

But, now you have pseudo-random credit card numbers with EMV/ApplePay. They can't track you using credit card numbers.

So what is good for you (changing credit card with essentially one time credit card numbers, for security and privacy) becomes bad for the merchant (they can't track you across purchases).

On a side note, check out news about Axciom. I had a friend work there, and I'm glad they're gone. They can tie a huge amount of info to you, a scary amount.

From the article it said email addresses were obtained. Not much of a breach is it?

This is a company that requires your social security number and full bank info for an account. Any bit of nerves about that is bad. Even just emails, it's bad. That and spear-phishing (shudder, I hate that term) emails are gonna cause more chaos. Also, maybe the emails is all we know about? If i hacked a payment processor, with the potential of getting payment info, SS numbers, and bank account numbers, Id keep that under my hat as I slowly drain things, no need to call the press on that. This is bad bad bad.

ApplePay allows you to give a credit card, which already has fraud protection on it. A couple orders of magnitude of peace of mind. Which would you pick?