as interesting as it is, it's not really the point.

the point is, in the 21st century, we don't need to deal with this anymore, we can do better, so lets do that, it might not have 100% of the features the old system has, but it might be possible over time to implement those features in a more sane way, with better knowledge and tools that what they had in the 80's when they built this system.

that x is so old, badly designed and hacky that it actually curtails people from using it, preferring to hide away in the toolkits and never touch x directly, just means that x is in fact irrelevant and for most people, they won't even know x is gone, cause the toolkits will just make them unaware of that.

so, lets support them cleaning the house, we'll be left with a better architecture, better performance (even more than in your graphs) cause surely deleting a bunch of this crap and making a cleaner, better structure will result in memory and performance improvements.

thats the point, not that compared to windows, we're doing ok, it's about being compared to ourself, it's a shit job, lets try again

Really? cause the last time I tried that, it didn't.....so maybe it's working now but not all the time or it depends on something you've installed or configured that I haven't ?

Remote X was a bullshit and almost nobody uses it, VNC, RDP, NX all replaced it as being better substitutes because it sidestepped it all....

PROTIP: if nobody is updating your solution, but copying everybody elses, it's because they've realised your solution was bullshit and everybody is moving to the more standard, generally accepted one.

I think it's very telling that linux seems to be destroying the market competition, now that it's being used through android and the linux system supports it

so yes....I would have to say that the x system is primarily responsible for the demise of the linux desktop, or at least, the demise of your idiotic mentality

now that android sidestepped all your bullshit, it's practically eating the competition....microsoft has fallen, nokia has fallen, numerically speaking apple has too, but has so much money they can ride it out maybe.

All of that happened when somebody said "hey guys, you know what, linux is great, but fuck all this bullshit and do it better"

fact is, we all think you're a dick cause you're holding up progress so you can keep necrophilically masturbating over the x protocol that everybody knows is dead already

if you want to help the desktop, push forward, don't us all drag back so you couple of hundred/thousand maybe people can stop the desktop from evolving and remain in your comfort zone, help to make wayland network transparent if you can, if it cannot do it, try to suggest ways it can be done.

but don't under any circumstances think we're going backwards, fuck you guys, keep your x, we'll happily live without it, even if you can't.

I'm not messing up the linux toolchain, I'm helping to improve it by fixing the bullshit created by barely competent programmers, if my contribution is to push the car and let somebody else to the driving, I'm more than happy to do it.

pass me the petrol....it's burning too slowly....

errr, to be honest, looking at the x protocol and other related linux desktop stuff coming from them, I wouldn't agree that they are very skilled at all, I'd say that they are hacks and deserve to be called so.

a skilled programmer would have realised the bullshit it was a decade ago and dropped it like a hot coal in favour or something else, no skilled programmer I know, or would want to call skilled, would continue to pound it with a hammer like those hacks have done for so long....

yeah, I mean, having a shit ton of games and high performance graphics applications sounds awfully lot like a shortcoming you fucking retard....

I wonder how many of those android phones which run using a VM use x.....and deliver high performance multimedia content....ALL BECAUSE THEY GOT RID OF X

login to your real account and put your name on that statement coward...

x11 is dead, period, only fools and idiots suggest otherwise, it's a hack upon hack, dirty, high latency piece of bullshit that no skilled programmer would have continued to work on.

it should have been buried years ago and instead, here we all are, watching it decay in front of us whilst android based systems start to appear and do something linux never did and do it in almost no time at all.....all because they said "fuck this shit" and did something better

that tiny fraction of users won't matter, since almost all the distributions will change, they are free to continue to use their old system and all new software will eventually stop to support it, like xfree86....

so the juggernaut will continue

bingo.....exactly!!

I'm fairly sure nobody using a mac has ever thought to themselves, not even once

"you know, the main technical drawback to mac osx, is the lack of x...."

I'm fairly sure, everybody using a mac, has always thought, wow, this is cool, I get to do my work and it's so easy and simple to use

maybe he did, but he is selfishly trying to convince people to take a step backwards just so he can continue to use xclock or whatever the fuck application he uses that STILL needs the x protocol....

oops, you're/your, maybe mine are broken too :)