Comment Re:Myogyny? (Score 1) 704
Misogyny at root is about seeing women as subhuman, as not having any inherent value but the use others get out of them, and lashing out when that is challenged.
But that's not really the point, we could debate misogyny vs sexism vs whatever for ages, and it's not really relevant. I was just pointing out that you'd probably not feel it were merely pandering (and there's a lot of pandering in the world, there's nothing wrong with it) if the depicted men the same way. Pandering is an added thing, not the whole of the thing. There's a difference. But I find that people have trouble seeing the difference when it comes to women, as they're so inured to seeing women depicted as objects that it doesn't register. A good way might be to compare something like the hawkeye initiative to the ways men are depicted when the intention is fanservice directed at women and gay men. It's a good way to see the difference between "here is a character, who exists to do xyz, and also they are sexy" and "fuckability is the only characteristic this character possesses, and their sole purpose is to turn you on, and that's the only reason we added them in."