Meth labs and hydroponic setups are banned too, but that does not stop them.
So is murder and child rape. What was your solution?
Generally, the point of the law is to indicate what is OK and what is not OK, and to provide punishments for those that break the law.
- Not a solution
- Not relevant
- Do you have an authoritative reference that shows the "point of law is to indicate what's OK and not OK"?? And while your at it - find out why we all haven't been getting our weekly Hansard 'cause I don't know what's OK and not OK. OK?
If a guy gets a gun and blows a bunch of holes in a piece of paper, who is the victim?
The people who inhale the paper dust? The people whose peace is shattered by the gun shot?
Do you have a point? Or is this simply a "baffle'm with bullshit" exercise?
If a woman gets a gun to protect her from her crazy ex-husband, who is the victim?
On the basis of the example given - no one. There's an assertion that the gun will protect the woman. The false logic that a gun is an equaliser. Another assertion that the "ex-husband" is "crazy". Yet another unsubstantiated assertion that somehow being "crazy" means the ex-wife is at risk from something that only a gun can protect her. Emotive, speculative, logically flawed, and totally irrelevant to the legislation that was speculatively proposed.
The point here is that OWNERSHIP of a gun is NOT bad. It is what you DO with the gun that actually matters.
Maybe to you, but real life not so much. If you removed all the gun laws tomorrow it'd still be an offence to shoot someone (assault). Gun laws are there to keep voters happy as a measure designed to reduce the risk that someone might do "something bad" with a gun. Ownership of a gun, or explosives etc is a risk of behaviour and exposure. "You" might only shoot paper without adversely affecting anyone else but as long as you have a gun and ammunition there's a risk they could get into the wrong hands - so no, the current gun laws are not just about what you might do with a bullet. It's about limiting the number of firearms and ammunition and attempting to "guess" in advance which owners are likely to misuse the bullets (or point the guns at the wrong people - which is anyone).
Keeping voters happy means (amongst
other things) limiting the embarrassment suffered by public officials when someone insists on wearing petrol pants to a barbecue. e.g. "Three times that person assaulted ex-partners with a weapon - now someone is dead. How come you allowed that person to get a weapon?".
Good and Bad are personal opinions - like Right and Wrong. Confusing them with what's legal and illegal won't end well. Leads to other stupid expectations like Justice and Meaning (sigh). It's the same sort of flawed logic that says possession of guns means the government won't be evil. 'cause we'll arm up - form a militia, vote for leaders, shoot the government and form our own government. That'll take care of that problem of outsourcing responsibility... (yup, if at first ya don't succeed keep doing exactly the same thing thing in the vain hope that blind optimism will triumph over experience.)
Cracking down in ownership really only affects the honest people.
Bullshit. I'm relatively honest - how does the "cracking down on ownership" negatively affect me? It doesn't unreasonably affect me. (I'm assuming that part of your problem is the inability to differentiate between "law-abiding" and "honest". "Honesty" doesn't mean you obey the law - it just means you'll admit breaking it if asked.)
I'm a rural property owner without a criminal record or mental health problem. I legally own all the guns I reasonably need to do my work. I'd like to own a particular semi-automatic high-power air-rifle because it'd be cheaper for silent rabbit shooting than a suppressed .22 - but I can't because the manufacturer decided they could sell more in the US if it looked (hyper-)paramilitary (matt black with rails) instead of traditional hunting style. I can see the point of that, I know people in the grey zone and understand that the black market price is much higher for scary looking guns than for purely functional hunting weapons. I'd much prefer the bolt-action 100 year old .22 tack hammer to a 9mm Uzi machine pistol - and if I was a robber making good on a threat I'd be far more lethal with one. But I'm not a robber - so the NRA Match rifle is worth less than $50 even on the black market and the unregistered highly-illegal Uzi sells for $5K. Do the gun laws work? Get caught with Uzi and decide for yourself.
I'm old enough
to remember when the only gun laws were those that restricted gunsmiths from making guns that were dangerous to use, and public access to cannons and concealable weapons (you can save your libertarian self-protection bullshit for the Congo or somewhere else you shouldn't reasonably expect your taxes to pay for police to actually do their jobs). It's a lot harder for people who live in places where they have no reasonable excuse for having a gun now - which may just have something to do with the enormous reduction in the number of water tanks, road signs, bottles, cans, trees, cows, horses, sheep, cars, and houses with bullet holes in them. Certainly it's been many years since I've had to call the police to remove illegal shooters - and that used to be a weekly event. I still have to deal with a lot a people who want me to sign a bullshit letter authorising them to shoot on my properties so they can get a gun license - because they "need" the gun for "self-protection", and so they can spend their weekends "
blowing things away". Very, very few actually intend to hunt (and there's nothing to stop them joining a gun club if they truly believe gun sport is necessary). Many I meet at the local gun club (I train so I can hit what I aim at) only join in the hope of meeting people who will sell them an unregistered weapon - not because the laws unreasonably restrict them from owning one.
Criminals who intend to break the law certainly do not mind breaking one more law to get a gun. It really is not that hard to figure out.
Wow! You have a knack for believing the exceedingly obvious and totally irrelevant, is relevant and profound. The story is about a proposal to investigate whether being able to print a gun might create loopholes in existing gun control laws - at no point did any politician seriously propose to pass legislation banning 3D Printing, or force printer manufacturers to make the devices unable to make guns. The average politician knows more about fast Fourier transforms than they do about gun manufacturing and with a background of stupid media stories about how "anyone can print a gun" they formally inquired into the realities. No "crack down".
Instructing someone else is already a crime
Instructing them in what is a crime in this country? (or are conspiracy and incitement synonyms for instruction?).
No answer? I'm not surprised - clearly you're too stupid to understand how threads work, and too carried away with your "I would get the respect I deserve if I had guns" bullshit to bother creating a new post instead of just hijacking and existing one.
Looking for something that supports an existing opinion is not research. But don't let that stop you from cherry picking bad statistics (e.g only NSW has reliable crime statistics involving guns). The flawed ABS data you base your claims on doesn't count unregistered guns, doesn't count registered guns, only counts guns when it's the primary offence, and counts the same victim multiple times - an excusable mistake for an amateur statistician if it weren't so clearly and prominently printed as a preface to those statistics.
The reality is that "bad" gun use does not only result in death. Murder
is a low probability outcome of criminal gun use. Drive by shooting, armed home
invasion, and armed car jacking are all relatively new and growing crimes (you somehow overlooked that when cherry picking the data) - the vast majority involving guns not registered to the people using them.
Most surgeons will tell you that medical system is very good at treating gunshots now - but they aren't asked when compiling death by gun statistics (hint: irregular supply of crack cocaine caused a massive spike in gun shooting in the US - shootings are down, and number of deaths per shooting are down too, the latter mostly due to improved techniques and facilities).
I've spent time in places where you do need to be armed - to stand a chance. Guns don't deter attacks in those places unless you shoot first. In real life the person with the least scruples invariably wins - so much for the gun==equaliser myth (it's only true is the other person is unarmed and less violent).