If you assign 1 point to each level of the votes, you get:

First choice only: 4 systemd, 4 not-systemd
Second choice included: 9 systemd, 15 not-systemd

No matter how you swing it, all I see is that half the voters involved don't want it.

When half the guys on the board are Red Hat employees and the vote just by sheer coincidence is a 50-50 split, I'm not filled with trust.

Well no shit. Systemd is a Red Hat project, so of course it's in Fedora.

So put it on your own damn branch!

Especially considering this is Debian we're talking about, I don't understand why so many pro-systemd people are saying "if you don't like it, then fork off a non-systemd version." It's DEBIAN. Debian is all about NOT having the new unstable shiny!

Okay, maybe "significant" is a poor choice of words. Statisticians would probably get mad at me. How about "strong" instead.

Assuming I'm reading this right:

http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/...

http://www.muktware.com/2014/0...

So assuming left-to-right priority, 2 votes were for "further discussion." So it was more or less a 4-2 vote with 2 abstentions. Langasek's second choice was upstart, and Jackson's second choice was sysvinit. If they both went to the upstart side--which sounds like a quite reasonable outcome to me--we'd be looking at a 4-4 tie. If a tie-breaker is necessary to break deadlock, there is NO WAY you can call it "overwhelming."

Like I said before, 50%+1 (which this vote wasn't, even) is not my definition of "overwhelming." I dare say that most people would call that a majority (more votes than all other choices combined). This is merely a plurality, among a particularly small sample size at that.

Ich kann mit Übersetzungsschwierigkeiten sympathisieren.

He's not "deciding" anything; he's just stating his opinion. Last I checked we were allowed to have opinions.

People disagreeing with you does not make them narcissistic asses.

*vendetta

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1...

Even if it *was* stolen, why the heck would they give him his deposit back? "Oh, I'm sorry, I lost your vehicle somewhere...can I have my deposit back that I gave you to cover this exact eventuality?" Maybe if the cops recovered it somewhere, fine, but that obviously wasn't going to be the case.

Now I'm picturing some Oxford-educated guy going around with a rapier, provoking people into challenging him to a duel over his obscure (yet correct) English usage.

I'd watch that show.

I hope you'll understand if I don't feel like spending a lot of effort on pronouncing their name correctly...

Nah. For one thing, I'd have a difficult time convincing myself to use a Zynga anything, even if it was free. Not really that good at Scrabble either, but I'll admit I'm something of a grammar Nazi.

List of English words containing Q not followed by U

qi, qat, niqab...

Next we'll be complaining that we should spell Deutsch as doych.

Funny that we've managed to survive since 1991 without it, then.

Too bad there isn't a setting to filter out all the people bitching about ACs posting. You could at least contain any other useful point in your post if you're going to.

That he was phrasing it as a hypothetical situation means he ISN'T dictating what they do, which you would understand if you didn't just post a kneejerk response. That he has no input on the steering of those listed projects is what's prompting the hypothetical in the first place. You're attacking him for doing things he's implying he can't (and won't) do.

Oh, and it's spelled "narcissistic."

Not sure how the Debian voting system works, but assuming simple majority, all systemd winning the vote might mean is that 50%+1 of voters support it.

I do not call a half-and-half split "overwhelming support." I'd call it "significant support."