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Comment There are still political consequence (Score 1) 186

Why would Obama care about lobbyist money? As of two weeks ago, he's been freed of all political consequences to any of his actions. He can finally do what he thinks is right.

He was personally freed from all consequences once re-elected. As he told the Russian President he would never have to face another election so he would be more flexible once re-elected.

As for consequences to the democratic party he is no more free before the recent midterm election than after. What he did and what he will do will effect the party, be it helpful or hurtful.

Comment Re:IQ of congress (Score 1) 163

you do know how parliamentary procedure works with you know amendments to motions :-) id suggest reading Citrine and Roberts rules as background than the standing orders and rules of debate for the congress before making that assumption

Did you ever watch CSPAN when Obamacare was being drafted? I watched one night. Something drafted in the backrooms by who knows who was brought out. Democrats offered zero amendments. Some republicans offered BS amendments and were rightfully voted down. Other republicans offered constructive well thought out amendments with explanations for the problem / unintended consequence they were addressing. Every single one of these amendments were voted down **without** discussion. No questions. No debate. No discussion. Nothing. It was as if the current text of the bill was negotiated somewhere else behind closed doors and **zero** changes could be made.

Textbooks, and Electric Company videos, about bills ... meet the real world.

Comment Re:I have a revolutionary idea.... (Score 1) 167

If in an undeveloped area the coastline may have anything from small streams to rivers emptying into the ocean (well small steams generally disappear at the sand, or a little earlier, and go subterranean but are often visible from the coastal trail/road). Backpacking water filters (mine is roughly 1 pound / 0.5 kilo) work quite well under these circumstances to make the water potable.

Comment Re:How much does the device weigh? (Score 1) 167

I guess if 1 liter is all you'll ever need. There are people who do distance biking and 1 liter is a joke.

I used 1L in the example since the device was claiming 0.5L an hour under ideal conditions. The weights I used for the camelback itself were actually for a 3L model. Personally I always fill it to 3L despite normally consuming 1.5L on rides and hikes. I'd rather have extra than go without, plus its a safety margin. If I think I'll need all 3L to get from one fill to another I'll bring a second 3L bladder.

Comment Re:Perception is a tool ... (Score 1) 328

How do you refute a polygraph result? Some guy doesn't like you and just says that this set of wiggly lines means your lying. While what it really means is the guy interpreting wiggly lines for a job is just an asshole.

Re-read my post. Its making no claim about polygraphs spotting a troublesome candidate. Its pointing out that the government could see value by troublesome candidates self-selecting to avoid jobs that involve a polygraph, or a candidate cracking under pressure and making an admission. Refuting is a 3rd case, it provides no value, but it does not change the fact that the other 2 cases may provide value from a government perspective.

Comment Re:You don't have it straight ... (Score 1) 328

He's charged with conspiracy, he knew the intent of the training was to conceal criminal activity by a law enforcement officer from an agency investigation. Whether the training was effective or necessary is not relevant. All that matters is that he was willing to assist in such concealment in any manner.

Comment Re:You don't have it straight ... (Score 1) 328

Prop in a mind game? That's just finding an excuse after the fact for an expensive long running scam.

Placebos are not a scam when they produce a desirable effect. To the government, tricking a person with a questionable background into avoiding jobs where a security clearance would be necessary is beneficial. As is tricking a person into not attempting deception during an investigation. The government believes they experience a benefit by such trickery.

Comment Re:You don't have it straight ... (Score 1) 328

The quack science argument kicks right back in the moment someone is accused of lying "because the polygraph says so". Guarantee to me that's never happened. Go on. Dare you.

No problem. It never happens in the venue where the former police officer in question is headed, in court.

Comment Re:You don't have it straight ... (Score 1) 328

This question is a moot one.

Please. Your dodge is going beyond ridiculous. *You* wrote "If there's no damage to society, there's no crime". *You* implied there was no damage to society. Now faced with the actual charge, "training a federal law enforcement officer to lie and conceal involvement in criminal activity" all of a sudden damage to society is a moot issue?

Your repeated dodging constitutes a quite clear answer, you have essentially admitted that you were wrong to imply there was no potential damage to society in this case.

If court, judge and jury can be made to believe in polygraph ...

Doubling down on the absurd I see. Polygraphs are not allowed as evidence. The charges must be proven using other methods.

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