Religious types? Among scientists?

No , I said funding bodies, not scientists. The ones where Senator Cletus McGee gets on board and vetos climate physics research grants because his pastor told him physicists lie as much as biologists do.

Are you asserting that natural climate variation caused by factors other than human CO2 emissions never had an effect on animals or plants?

No. I said we haven't observed those effects on Emporer penguins before.

Natural climate variations other than human CO2 are a pretty small signal in the scheme of things. The cause of Climate change is overwhelmingly human caused. Why is this still a debate amongst the non scientitific community?

If you apply for a grant to study penguin breeding grounds . . . affected by global climate change . . . you can have all the money you want.

Holy shit no. Its well known amongst physicists and other earth sciences that even mentioning climate change can get you in trouble if you get religious types or conservatives on your review panel. Serious dude, climate science is harmful to your career due to all the political interference with funding and the pressures on atmospheric researchers from funding bodies to downplay long term negative consequences of innaction.

Scientists have been talking about CO2 induced climate change and the effects on animals and plants since the late 1800s dude. However regarding penguin migrations its been largely speculative.

OK, and this is part of climate change how? They have done it for years, but now it's part of "climate change"?

Right. We do the anti-science thing in slashdot these days dont we. *sigh*

Penguin observations are something I'm fairly closely involved with professionally. That climate change affects penguins isn't controversial amongst researchers, its something we've known for a long time and studies on it go back to the 50s at least. Basically , penguins don't use magic to navigate, but rather fairly detailed memory of environmental conditions and landmarks. "Hey this is where the water turns cold with the shore to my right. I better start swimming south where there are more tasty fish" kind of thing. The problem is, these forms of navigation are super succeptible to environmental change, and whilst climate effects of CO2 are only starting to become widely felt, the effects on the ocean so far have been huge, particularly near the poles Again , none of this is controversial, we know this to be true.

Now I'm not much of an expert on Emperor penguins (The project I'm working with does obersvations of fairy penguins whos range isn't as far south as the emporers who are strictly ice dudes) but my understanding is they have never been observed to change nesting location so the question is *why*. Well Antarctic is interesting in that it doesn't change an awful lot, theres not a LOT of variables at play here , but one BIG change is that warmer currents coming in caused by climate change (Some marine biologists joke that climate change should be could 'sea change' because it tends to dispropirtionately affect oceans, and a 'sea change' might be your career path if you do climate science and the fundamentalist right regains power and starts defunding evolutionary biologists and climate physics again).

So its a guess that its the cause, but its a good guess because it seems the most likely candidate, all things considered.

Wait till you get a load of us Aussies , cobba!

Whooping cough does seem to be a bit slippery though. There was a round in the 1970s where the vaccinations failed as well (Which is where I got it as a kid, and thus have had life long asthma problems)

American corporations won't go against U.S. government policy

US Govt Policy is whatever the companies paying the campaign contributors want it to be.

Of course they wont go against it. They thought it was a good idea when they came up with it!

Oh I was kinda trolling a bit with the commie jibe. My point there is that people see a carbon price as somehow "stealing" from them whilst ignoring their own impacts on others. There are no free lunches in science but a lot of supposedly "capitalist" folks seem to want one when it comes to disposing the by products of their consumption, in this case by driving up CO2 levels and putting the climate out of whack.

For an oscilloscope, $300 is more like a nanobudget, or even picobudget.

True, though you can often pick up a good old solid Analogue CRO on Ebay for that price and honestly those old girls will still do the job marvelously for 99% of use cases.

Nobody needs to "spin proof" of AGW, any more than they need to "spin proof" of evolution, the solar centric motion of planets or anything else in science thats already proven.

Then quit pissing in the commons, disconnect your power, buy a solar powered (ONLY) car, avoid anything made with , well anything.

And then, after your satisfied your not increasing the risk to me and everyone else, I think it would be ok to not have any taxes go to cleaning up your mess.

Otherwise, quit freeloading off others, denialist commie.

Not really. The Kinect mostly is about image processing and highly parallel vector processing is just what that sort of application requires.

It would have been stranger if it DIDNT rely on the GPU.

I wish you americans would stop confusing the term republican for democratic.

You live in a republic AND a democracy.

Like North Korea you are a republic.
Like Australia you are a democracy.

Unlike Australia, you are a republic.
Unlike North korea, you are a democracy.

See? Its not that hard to understand. (Republic just means "No king". It doesn't specify what the king is replaced with).

When Google says "Not Where We Want to Be" , what they are saying is that it is time to start discriminating against white males

I will never understand how some peoples brains hear "Must discriminate against white people!" whenever someone says "Must not discriminate against black people".

Seriously, this white separatist thinking eally needs to die.