The comments by the above are often made decades after the war, one in particular admits "I arrived at this conclusion after talking with a number of Japanese officials who had been closely associated with the decision of the then Japanese government, to reject the ultimatum, as it was presented."
Yes, some of these quotes are evidence that hindsight is 20/20, but that still counters your claims in your previous post that the Japanese would have continued to fight on. And then there are the quotes like these:
When I asked General MacArthur about the decision to drop the bomb, I was surprised to learn he had not even been consulted. What, I asked, would his advice have been? He replied that he saw no military justification for the dropping of the bomb.
That's right, MacArthur said that if he was asked his opinion at that time he would not have seen a reason to use the bomb.
the Secretary, upon giving me the news of the successful bomb test in New Mexico, and of the plan for using it, asked for my reaction, apparently expecting a vigorous assent.
During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary
In this one Eisenhower said that he thought the dropping of the bomb was completely unnecessary as soon as he heard the news.
While the Emperor's safety and symbolic position was permitted to continue after occupation it was done so **after** an investigation into whether the Emperor was responsible for war crimes. We could not have determined the Emperor's status with respect to being a war criminal until after boots on the ground, i.e. after surrender.
The actual instrument of surrender said nothing about an investigation into war crimes. In fact, there was no mention of crimes at all. Regarding the Emperor, it said
We hereby undertake for the Emperor, the Japanese Government, and their successors to carry out the provisions of the Potsdam Declaration in good faith, and to issue whatever orders and take whatever action may be required by the Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers or by any other designated representative of the Allied Powers for the purpose of giving effect to that declaration.
There was also a tacit agreement along with the final surrender that the Emperor would not under any circumstances be investigated for war crimes:
http://www.pacificwar.org.au/J...
http://www.japanfocus.org/-her...
Your reference suggests no such thing, unless you are making a very strange interpretation of Halsey's flippant comment about scientists and their toys. While the value of deterring possible Russian aggression was a consideration it was secondary, and as history shows not necessarily an unfounded fear.
No, this reference does not suggest it, but it is widely known that Hiroshima was spared conventional bombing so that if it was attacked with a nuclear device, it would be easier to analyze the effects. Since several generals from the previous source said was of limited strategic value, this seems to be the only reason for the bombing Hiroshima over a more militarily significant target, or (if demoralizing the Japanese was the only objective) an unpopulated area.
You've gone from strange interpretations to just plain making up nonsense. In the future you may want to restate your irrational belief that Truman considered them experimental subjects into perhaps something like Truman wanted revenge.
I'll admit that this part was my own rant, but thanks for stuffing words into my mouth. I made no claims about Truman. But it is well established that the average American of the 1940s viewed the Japanese as subhuman, and odds are that many of the people involved with atomic bomb policy held such views. There is no direct evidence that this factored into the decision to bomb Hiroshima, but I suspect that it was a contributing factor. I don't think revenge was a factor.
Imperial Japan could have made a counteroffer, instead they rejected it.
Classic. Shift the blame on the country that got bombed. I'm sorry, but there are no circumstances in which the intentional killing of tens of thousands of civilians is justified. In this case, a simple show of force would have sufficed. Drop the bomb in a rural area or off the coast of Japan, far enough from urban centers to prevent damage, but close enough that it can be observed. Then spread reels of the event.
Including rejecting it after the first atomic bombing at Hiroshima.
This is completely false. As for why Japan didn't initiate dialogue with the US immediately after Hiroshima, don't forget that the US bombed Nagasaki only three days later. They simply didn't have enough time between the two to formulate a response, especially since they had to deal with the Soviet invasion that began within that interval.