Comment Re:sad (Score 1) 2166
How so? The last police statement mentioned no prosecution of any kind. Last I heard no charges were even laid.
Here's the latest update on the trial I could find:
"Elston McCowan and Perry Molens face misdemeanor charges for allegedly assaulting a political button-seller last year; the defendants have pulled out the big guns by retaining St. Louis criminal defense attorney Paul D'Agrosa."
So now an anti-social hermit with a diagnosed mental disorder who lives a survivalist life-style in a cabin in the woods is a 'leftist'?
Domestic terrorists have typically been mentally ill anti-social loners who have difficulty holding relationships and tend to act as individuals. What's your point?
Wikipedia on the Unabomber's manifesto:
Industrial Society and Its Future begins with Kaczynski's assertion that "the Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race."[43] The first sections of the text are devoted to psychological analysis of various groups—primarily leftists and scientists—and of the psychological consequences for individual life within the "industrial-technological system",[43] which has robbed contemporary humans of their autonomy, diminished their rapport with nature, and forced them "to behave in ways that are increasingly remote from the natural pattern of human behavior." The later sections speculate about the future evolution of this system, argue that it will inevitably lead to the end of human freedom, call for a "revolution against technology", and attempt to indicate how that might be accomplished.
His manifest echoes the sentiments of leftist luminaries Herbert Marcuse and Jacques Ellul. His manifesto echoes left wing, environmental, anti-industrialist, and to a lesser extent Malthusian sentiments. You can't get much more left wing than that.
Look, eco-terrorists come from all sorts of backgrounds and quite a lot of them are libertarians, anarchists and the like.
Terrorists come from all sorts of backgrounds, that is precisely my point. There is generally an anarchist streak in almost all terrorists (which "frees" them to disregard human life and civil constructs). For instance, the Discovery Channel bomber, ecoterrorist James J. Lee was a human trafficker and was likely a sociopath but he was also undeniably a left wing malthusian. The two are not mutually exclusive in sick minds (Loughner admired The Communist Manifest and Mein Kampf which are fundamentally incompatible). Finally, there are major left wing groups which advocate terrorism that have been quite active perpetrating violence (PETA, ELF, BLA, etc.).
And finally, I refer you to the FBI's Most Wanted list regarding domestic terrorism. The list is *dominated* by left wing terrorists associated with organizations advocating terrorism.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/dt
Wait, I thought the right wing was preeminent in domestic terrorism? I should be seeing militia members and right wing, gun-toting rednecks? The most wanted list completely destroys the picture you have carefully been painting of right wing terror groups that dominate the terrorist scene (with a few left wing individualists).
I wonder if you will now relent and admit that both sides have their violent fringes and there are indeed many active left wing groups who incite terrorism? Indeed if we are to go by the most wanted list, it would seem that the left is far more active in organized terrorism than right wing organizations. I wonder if you will agree that I have more than satisfied your earlier request?
Perhaps if you could give us a list of all that "violence coming from the left" in the US
I presume you will accept the FBI's most wanted list fulfills this request and then some?