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Comment Re:My FreeBSD Report: Four Months In (Score 2) 471

The thing I worry about is that, since Red Hat (which controls systemd) is a USA company, it is quite likely in bed with the NSA, which has been *proven* to be spying on everyone worldwide as much as it can. So it is possible that there's exploits built into systemd to allow NSA spying.

I would feel much safer if it were a project made by a company in some other country, like Finland, not an American company. American companies cannot be trusted to protect our privacy, or really trusted in any way at all.

I guess you don't run a lot of software then.

An by the way, systemd is not controlled by Red Hat. Even Canonical has had some systemd commiters since long before Ubuntu decided to switch.

Comment Re:Fuck you (Score 1) 471

I looked at it and from what I could see the only dependency in jessie that I could find was that gvfs-daemons depends on libsystemd0. Libsystemd0 is not systemd, and it's certainly not an init system. It's a utility library that provides an interface for applications to call systemd components but it does not depend on systemd itself.

Comment Re:My FreeBSD Report: Four Months In (Score 5, Informative) 471

That's the problem. There isn't a stable release with systemd.

Fedora has so far released six stable releases with systemd, and Red Hat shipped their first stable release with systemd last summer.

The code isn't audited, nor has it seen actual production testing. It was just foisted on the end users without any transition period, possibly breaking every single app that uses the init.d mechanism for starting and control.

It has been shipping in Fedora for the past four years, and in RHEL since last summer. If that's not production testing then what is?

To boot, with systemd's ability to listen on the network, it has a good chance of becoming a massive remote root exploit in the waiting. Does it have any internal security? We can cross fingers that this large blob of new code does more harm than good, but all it takes is one glitch, and it would mean havoc worse than the RTM worm on the UNIX side ages ago, or the Windows worms in the early 2000s.

Inetd has been doing that for years. It has since moved to a different project. Big deal?

Comment Re:My FreeBSD Report: Four Months In (Score 4, Insightful) 471

Just over four months ago, I updated my Debian testing workstation. To keep a long story short, systemd was installed, and my workstation basically got trashed. It no longer booted properly, and none of my attempts to fix it worked. I used a livecd to perform one final backup.

Have you tried it on a stable OS release that has systemd? I assume you know that testing is a development branch and is supposed to break, otherwise it would be called stable. Fedora has been using it for years now and it has been fine.

Comment Re:Why always Ubuntu on these boxes? (Score 1) 123

RedHat has never been interested in selling a desktop solution

Sure they have. Go back to the Red Hat Linux days, the desktop was the main reason why they got into the business to begin with. It failed miserably though and that's when they switched to the enterprise market.

(just to contradict me, I believe that recently they have a workstation version comming up).

There have been desktop version of RHEL going back to the first version. They actually have two of them, Desktop and Workstation where Workstation is intended for software development while Desktop is meant for regular desktops.

Ubuntu is first and foremost concentrating on the Desktop experience.

If there's something Ubuntu is missing it's focus. They are doing desktop, mobile, tablet and server. Ubuntu Server is extremely popular in the server market, I would guess that's probably their biggest user base.

Steam supports Ubuntu, not Fedora. Ubuntu is what is closest to Windows and Mac as for support. It had wifi connection via GUI two years before Fedora got it.

And if you do not like Unity, you can try Gubuntu. It should look familliar to Fedora as it runs Gnome 3.

Canonical only supports packages which are in main, and most of the alternatives to Unity including Gnome is in universe. You may and often will miss out on important security updates if you use them. I see tons of people install Ubuntu's LTS releases thinking that they can install just about any package and it will be supported for five years, but in reality only a small subset of packages are supported that long and the majority are not supported at all.

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